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From NFL To New Life: Justin Cheadle
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Success can look perfect and still feel empty, and both of us know what it’s like to hit a milestone and realize it didn’t fix what was going on inside. Former NFL offensive lineman Justin Cheadle joins us to talk about the real path behind the highlight reels, from picking up football late to scholarships, Cal, and the cutthroat reality of practice squads, short contracts, and sudden roster decisions.
We also go deeper than sports. Justin shares the “Miracle Child” story that shaped his mental toughness, including severe childhood asthma, leg braces, a speech impediment, and a life-threatening hospital moment that changed everything. From there, we talk about faith as a real rebuild, what it means to come back after selfish seasons, and why mentorship and community matter when you’re trying to live differently.
Then we get practical with discipline and purpose: Justin’s coaching philosophy, his men’s community event “100 Men vs Gorilla,” and how fitness can build confidence that spills into marriage, parenting, and work. We also break down his bodybuilding prep, the daily grind of cardio, lifting, nutrition, and posing, plus why doing something uncomfortable can unlock growth you didn’t think you had.
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Second Take And Warm Welcome
SPEAKER_02Justin Cheadle, welcome to the podcast, round two. We just had a nice conversation.
SPEAKER_01The whole system showed it was such a good comment.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, I'm gonna wipe the tears away, and here we are going back to start over. So anyways, dude, welcome to the podcast. Thank you for being here and uh bringing your beautiful girlfriend along. She is beautiful. Yeah, Chris suggested that you be on the podcast, and he is someone I love and respect dearly. I actually went to high school with him.
SPEAKER_00No way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00What high school?
From Basketball To Football
SPEAKER_02Oh, are we allowed to say that name? No, we can say it. Calvin Chapel Downey. Okay. Yeah, Calvin Chapel Downey. Long time ago, dude. That's awesome. But dude, thank you for being here on the podcast. We're gonna get back into this right now. Thank you for having me. Yeah, dude. I really appreciate it, man. But hey, you know, warmed up. No, we're ready to go. Yeah, we're we're chilling, dude. Anyways, dude, uh, I want to get right into this. Um, you were in the NFL. Yes, dude, that is upper echelon, right? As you we talked about before, the top one percent. I mean, to get there, I I most of us will will never see that. But what do what was it like? How did you get to that point?
SPEAKER_00You know, I asked myself the same question because I'll lead with this. It was never my dream to make it to the NFL. Um, I grew up playing every sport besides football. Um, my main sport was basketball. I've been six foot four since seventh grade.
SPEAKER_02Um since seventh grade. Yeah. Bro, I didn't even start growing until like I think 10th or 11th grade year. I was a late bloomer. Unbelievable. I was short.
SPEAKER_01I'm barely 5'11, dog.
SPEAKER_02I mean, yeah. I mean, that's why I married Asian, dude. She was a little bit shorter. I feel tall when I'm around her family. There we go.
Scholarships Grades And Choosing Cal
SPEAKER_00I love it, dude. Yeah, that's funny. Um, yeah, I I didn't play, I didn't play football until I got actually to high school my freshman year. And um I just remember my mom, I wanted to play football in like seventh and eighth grade. My mom was like, Well, I was a little bigger, so they were gonna put me with older kids. So my mom was like, I don't want my baby getting hurt, you know? So my mom never let me play football. So when I got in high school and I stopped growing, I was like, I'm gonna play football. Mom's. Exactly. Gotta love them. I love you, mom. Um, yeah, so I picked up football in high school. Um, and it was one of those things where I was just like, I'm playing. I ended up playing frost soft, and they bumped me right to varsity um at the end of the year. So by the time I was playing sophomore year, I was starting on varsity. But then like the first game or two, I had my first full ride offer to U of A. That's sophomore year? My sophomore year in high school. Is that normal? Um, yeah, you could you can do that. I mean, not normal for someone that just picked up football. I mean, yeah, that's pretty phenomenal. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think you said you played basketball before, right? Basketball. And I was playing basketball story. Yeah, I was until they started growing taller than me. They said dribble the ball. I was like, nah, I didn't practice that growing up. Uh when I got that full ride scholarship, this is how just crazy it was. I got the full ride scholarship and uh I looked at my coaches, I low-key almost wanted to cry. And not because I got the scholarship, but because I thought I had to go to U of A. Nothing wrong with U of A, but I just didn't want to go to the University of Arizona. But they looked at me and they were like, Justin, this is a startup. More scholarships coming. I was like, oh, okay, let's just keep playing. For the rest of the year, scholarships just started coming in, coming in, coming in. I mean, was that exciting though? It was so exciting. I mean, I did, you know, having letters from schools and calls from coaches all the time, uh, for something you you didn't even think, I didn't even think this was gonna happen. You know, I was just hanging out with everybody playing football. Yeah, right, just having fun. I'm in high school, we're doing our thing. You know, I I was a new sport, I was I was decent at it, but um um we had a really good coach. I had a really good team uh with other people getting looked at. And I think a lot of coaches going to go look at some of my other players saw me in the interim. And because I was good, I was young, I also had really high grades. They were like, we'll take it, we'll take a shot of this guy. Dude, you got brains and your athletic height. Let's go. You know what? I think I unstoppable, baby. I think my parents, my they they just they didn't accept, they didn't play around with me, you know? Yeah, um, they wouldn't let me play sports, they wouldn't let me do anything if I wasn't bringing home good grades. So I I I'm very thankful for good parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So um I I you know I ended up getting scouted by tons of teams. It actually came down to Cal in Stanford. Um, I decided to go to Cal, and that's that was how I got I used football as my vehicle to get me to that next level. Yeah, going to Cal, number one university public university in the nation. I was like, dude, I'm set. Let's just get get my degree.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um I ended up playing, starting my sophomore year, starting most of my junior year, but ended up, you know, I I think I had like a bad play or two, and then I got in my head, lost my starting position, and um I just at the end of the year, I was faced with the decision to either continue playing football or graduate early because again, I was always focused on my grades. Um something told me to play my senior year, give it a shot, finish it out strong. They made some coaching changes, and I had uh an extremely great senior season. So great that my head coach came up to me and was just like, Justin, the NFL coaches are asking me, do you want to play at the next level? I've never talked to you about it. Do you want to play? And that was the first instance that I kind of sat back and thought about it. And I was like, man, do I want to play? No, I don't want to just keep hitting people over and over again. But it could set myself, my future family up if I made some money and you know, used it the right way. Yeah. So I said, yeah, why not? You know, not many people get this opportunity. Let's go. Right. Doors opened up. I got a shot to play at Kansas City Chiefs. Um, I was cut right away um in the preseason, and it happens. Most people get cut.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Well, you could look at what is that reference to um hard knocks. Yeah, that's my first time honestly watching and seeing the behind the scenes because let's be real, right? I only see the game day, right? The pomp and circumstance, the fireworks, you guys are running out, the smoke, and all that stuff. Do you think, wow, that's awesome. They must be loving their life, teamwork, you know, yeah, all that stuff. But then you watch hard knocks, and I'll I was taken back.
SPEAKER_00I was like, dude, these guys are ruthless, ruthless, and like some of those guys, all those guys aren't making that type of money, first of all. And um, it's just it it it's it's rough that they get cut, they get thrown to another team, they get cut. It's a tough life to live. And then the average spam for the NFL is still three years. That's it, it's three years.
SPEAKER_02Is that the shortest for any pro um level sport? Yeah, pro-level sport, is that the shortest time for a career?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, but I heard baseball is a better choice. Bro, I told someone if I could do anything, golf. Golf. Yes, yes. Yeah, dude. Golfing, bro. Yes. You know, if I have a son, anybody, my kids, I'm gonna push them in some other other directions, unless they really want to play. Yeah, but uh yeah, I did the whole football thing. I ended up my first year going to uh Kansas City, then I was cut. I got picked up, went to Green Bay, got cut again after six games just because they wanted somebody bigger.
SPEAKER_02So six six games. Six games. So you didn't have a contract then, right? You get paid, but you still got paid per game?
SPEAKER_00I was paid per game. I was on the practice squad. Okay. Um, and then literally six games went by. I didn't get my weight up because during the time in between, I I didn't think I was gonna get called back. I was I had a normal job training. Um, so I came in there maybe at like 280. They they saw me originally at like 305. So I was like eating, eating. I just couldn't get back up big again. But the funny thing was, the week after I got picked up by the Steelers. So wow, that's when I was I was there to do what a dual head-to-head tryout with um some uh someone, one of the other guys' little brother. He was a popular offensive lineman's little brother. And um uh we had this dual head-to-head tryout, and they couldn't pick between both of us. So they kept both of us and they cut somebody else. That is that is how the NFL is, you know, it's it's cutthroat. Um, so that was my first year in the NFL. But did you were 280 at that time? I was 280 when I got when I came to Green Bay. And then you said, but you said you were at 300 at one point. I got back to 305 by the time I after those six games, six weeks out of here. I ate it. How fast was your 40? Uh I think it was five flat. Stop it. Yeah. At that weight. Yeah. Oh, bro.
SPEAKER_02I was I was 305 when I did the combine. I would be terrified to see you sprinting towards me. You know, 100% terrified.
SPEAKER_00Watch those defensive linemen. Those guys are. I used to say, like, look, I'm I'm I'm here to block, but those defensive linemen, they're big and they're fast. They're 40s, 4'6. Stop. 4'5. That's incredible.
SPEAKER_016'3, 6'4, 6's. At that weight, 65. That's insane. How do you block that? Ah, bro. I have what you want. It's all yours.
The Cutthroat NFL Reality
SPEAKER_00That's why I was cutting them half the time. How do you block that? They're they're literally better athletes than they're as big as us, you know? Wow. But um, no, it was a great experience, honestly. Um, just to be there, be at that level. Um, I'll I'll even I remember getting to um to Pittsburgh in my first practice. I'm like sitting in there, I'm like, man, I got James Harrison in front of me. Like, he's gonna rip my head off. Like, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to survive this first practice, you know. I get in there, I'm ready to shower, and this guy with long hair comes up to me. And um he was just like, Hey, you did good today. I said, Thanks. He goes, if you need anything, my name's Troy. And I'm like, it's Troy Palomalu. It's Troy Palomalu. And like, yeah, I watched this guy from the club. The man with the hair down. The man with the hair. You know exactly who I'm talking about. Yeah, oh yeah. He's a legend. So like tell him to be so humble and like just come up and tell me, you know, I did good, and like just to greet me on my first day. Man, there was some there's some cool, some cool guys playing this. So there's humble dudes. There's humble there are some humble.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure there's people with egos. 100%. I mean, you get to that level, right?
SPEAKER_00I'll never forget Troy Palomolo just telling me I did good in my first day of practice, and he's a legend. That's cool, dude. Yeah, it was really cool. It was really cool.
SPEAKER_02So, where did you go from the Steelers?
Steelers Lessons And Troy Palomalu
SPEAKER_00No, I stayed. So at the Steelers, I stayed there. I ended up uh getting a two-year contract with them. Okay, okay. However, I tore my hamstring um during during that time. I so I'll back up. We finished the first year. Um, Coach Tom was looking at me. He says, Hey, if you want to play this next year and make this team, you gotta learn how to play center. I said, Okay. But in my head, I was thinking, like, dang, I've never played center in my whole life. Now I gotta learn at this extremely high level to play center. So I remember as soon as I got back to the offseason, I was hiking that ball, just hiking that ball. And then I didn't have nobody but my dog. So I started having my dog try to try to swipe the ball as I was hiking the ball. Well, I love it, dude. I love it. I was doing anything, you know, and then I found some guys to hike to. Um, but then I went back and I competed for a position and and I got that position. Problem was during the during preseason, uh preseason, I got clipped by my own teammate during the pla uh practice and I tore my hamstrings.
SPEAKER_02Oh bro, bro, it's and it's never like in the heat of action or the the big game date, right? I I got hurt last year at work. Stepping out of the fire engine. Like I told you I work as for the fire department there 18 years, and I drive the fire engine. And again, we weren't, I wasn't fighting a fire, not making a rescue, not doing the quote unquote what you see on TV, the hero stuff. It was simply I opened the door, stepped out backwards, and my knee kept going, dude. And I'm telling you, instant pain. Oh like I knew exactly what was going on, dude. And I fell to the ground, I'm screaming, and they're like, what happened? And they're like, Well, all right, try to get up. We gotta go treat the patient. Yeah. So they went help the patient. I'm sitting there holding. Well, I was off for like what six months, and guys are calling, dude, what happened? What was it the fire? What happened? I'm like, nah, dude, I just stepped out of the rig. Like stepped out wrong.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, here's being 39. It happens. They say after 30, I think it's more like 33. You gotta start kind of watching yourself, dude. Do you start getting nicks and pains?
SPEAKER_02Well, again, like two years ago at work, I sneezed and threw my back up. Like, I'm like, dude, I can't even sneeze. Is this this is aging? Is this late 30s?
SPEAKER_00That's what it is. I I I I love playing basketball. It's just again, I grew up playing basketball. I love it. I remember last time I was playing basketball. I was I was playing around, I was dunking, having a good time, and then literally, just on a layup, not going fast or anything, boom, just tear my same hamstring again. I was just like, man, just on a layup after dunking, dog, it's still yeah, it was it was nothing, for it's ugly. But it hurt for a long time, and then that's why I don't play basketball anymore. I was like, it's not it's not worth it.
SPEAKER_02Oh dude, I mean I try to play back. I mean, Chris plays bad. You remember he invited me because he plays pickup basketball. I think it was like five years ago. I'm like, I'm gonna go to 24 hour and do a pickup game. Dog. That that pickup and go and the juke, gone. Dude, you take it for granted when you're younger. Yeah, because I remember juke and I was like, oh my god, what is that muscle? I've never felt that pain before.
SPEAKER_00You're just not moving as fast as you used to, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, because like I run long distances. I used to do ultra marathons, right? 50, 60, two-mile runs and cycling long distances. That's different, right? You're talking like more lower and slower over hours and hours and hours. There's no sprinting above that. Yeah, sprinting is a whole nother set of muscles and different cardio, dude. 100%. Way, way different. 100%. You got to ease back into that one. Yeah, yeah. But dude, how did you handle it? So, did you get cut after the injury?
Injury Rehab And Career Pivot
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I just honestly, again, it's a cutthroat, right? So they were like, we can make more space on our team if we cut you and pay you out, yeah, and then bring somebody in. That's the business. So they sent me home. I got the rehab at home back in the bay, and um, I got paid out. And during that time, I just was real with myself. I knew I wasn't meant to play football forever. And I knew that as a professional athlete, one one of the hardest things is transitioning after the sport. I'm sure, dude. I'm sure. I so I ended up I wanted to practice my interviewing skills. So I I remember, I think it was like three or four interviews, just went in there, practiced my skills. I mean, I was just doing nothing but rehab and you know, working out. So practice these skills. And I um a family friend knew somebody in medical device sales, and there was there's a really good opportunity. I was like, well, if I get this shot, I can transition into a lucrative job and maybe not go back. I ended up getting the job, and that's when I decided, you know what? I'm not gonna go back to football. I'm gonna just make this leap right now and use the money I got for the injury.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That was my money to start with my family, do whatever I needed to do, and start, you know, a career in medical device. Yeah. So I made that transition. That transition.
SPEAKER_02Did you seem very much like a forward thinker? Right? You're kind of in a way, it's like you're thinking 10 steps ahead, right?
SPEAKER_00I try. I just my as my parents used to say, I'm a structure freak. So I mean, I I just I'm always thinking ahead because I don't want to be caught in the moment not having a plan. Or like, you know, if something happens, I gotta have at least a plan B, plan C, you know, something. You know, I think it's part of being an athlete, honestly, right? You know, you just sit there and you're in the game, you know, you have your play, but like and then like even on playing football, they're they're audible, right? Yeah. There's a shift in the defense. You gotta, you know, you gotta react, you know. So I think that's what it is.
Miracle Child And Near Death
SPEAKER_02This is you know, we've talked about this, but your your mental fortitude. It seems like you are very strong mentally, which I'm sure you have to be to get to that level of sports. And that's something that at least in my career field in the fire department, we have to be mentally tough, right? We actually have to go through psychological tests while we're getting hired, right? Which is wild because they ask you crazy stuff, bro. I think I was asked like three times if I had sex with an animal at different at different points, right? It was really weird. Yeah, it's like, have you ever shot a gun in a building? Have you ever stolen anything? I'm like, yeah, I took a pen from school. I'm sorry, you know? And uh, I remember in that interview, it was the third time, but it was like they don't ask it back to back, they ask questions in between. He's like, You ever had sex with an animal? And I turned, I was like, dude, have I? Is there something this exact question? I was like, What do you know that I don't know, right? The guy, you know, he's trying not to laugh, right? He starts kind of like he's like, turn around, turn around. I was like, sorry, my bad, my bad. That's hilarious. But it's so you know, that the psychological component and being mentally tough, where does that come from for you? How did you develop that? Because it's a young age that you've achieved these things.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so it's funny you asked me. Um, I've been doing a lot of reflecting of like, how do I got how I got where I'm at right now? Because I'm I'm really happy at where I'm at right now. There's a piece. And I have to say, as I was thinking, I was like, man, I've been fighting my whole life since day one. Um when I was born. Um but they they called me the Miracle Child. Um, and that's just because when my mom um and my dad, another day, they had two babies before me, my brother and my sister, Marcus and Danielle. Um they were born and they passed away right away. Then it was my turn. Um, I almost killed my mom coming out, and I almost died myself, and we both made it. So my mom was like, Oh, they wanted another one. They tried again, and that one passed away. So I was the only one that made it and they told her to stop trying to have kids. So I was the miracle child growing up, extremely asthmatic. I was in and out of the hospital all the time. I was doing the the breathing treatments all the time. I had to have the inhaler. Um, I also had braces on my legs like forced gum. So I couldn't run straight. Literally couldn't run. I was like running up here, running up here the whole time. Were the metal braces?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh, dude. I don't I'm not laughing at you, but I'm just like, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_00No, it's a crazy story because I like you know, you hear, and I was like, I'm one of those kids that have braces on my legs, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but look how far you went, dude.
SPEAKER_00You know, I would like hit people with my braces like they go. So um, yeah, I have braces growing up. So, you know, to be uh to make it to the NFL or to be in fitness now, knowing that like, or I'm fast, I'm really fast right now. Um, maybe not as fast as I was, but I'm fast. But to know that at one point I could run because I had braces, yeah. Um, I also had a speech impediment. And um I just I it's funny now, but my mom tried to put put me in the public school around the corner and she put me in there, and they wanted to put me in the special edit classes.
SPEAKER_02Stop. Really?
SPEAKER_00And my mom was like, There's nothing wrong with my baby, like I'm not gonna let that happen. So my mom took me, I went to private school from elementary all the way to like junior high, and then I went back to public school, but I had to get a uh a speech therapist, totally fixed my speech and everything. But again, it's funny because you know, they were gonna put me in special edit classes. That would have changed everything in my life. And I mean, to know that like from there I was taking the avid classes in um in junior high, and then in high school, I ended up taking AP and honors classes, ended up going to Cal, the top public institution. There was nothing wrong with me. So, like it what's really scary is they do that to kids all the time. Oh, it's ridiculous. Every people learn different.
SPEAKER_02Like, I didn't know I had dyslexia until I was in uh 11th grade.
SPEAKER_00It's but they do that to kids all the time. Yeah, it's ridiculous. If you just didn't give up on that kid, you don't know where that kid might be. 100%. And it's sad. Um, but again, you know, I fought through that. Um, fought through that, and then the other thing growing up in third grade, it was just a crazy story. It's a crazy story. I had severe asthma, as I said, but I caught pneumonia and it caused like the wall around my heart to get thick and it wasn't pumping, and it was really scary, and I couldn't breathe, and I was on 100% oxygen. And one night I actually ended up, it's a crazy story. I'm gonna go into it. One night in the in the hospital, I I flatlined. I flatlined and you straight up died. I flat I straight up died, declared died. And before I before I had flatlined, my parents told me. That I was talking in my sleep. Now I was talking in my sleep, and I was talking to my brother and sister who had passed away. And I used their names. And I I guess I had some conversation. And I I kid you not. My parents told you though, though my dad can tell you. Um, I guess I was like having this conversation, telling them, like, I'm gonna go be with you guys. And then it was a one-way conversation because obviously, but I why can't I be with you guys? What do you mean I can't be with you guys? You know, and then I flatlined. Wow. And um, so everybody came in there, and um then my heart started beating again. I that next morning I finally woke up, I threw up three blood clots, and they went in there, they scanned my whole body, and that wall thickness, gone. Dude, gone. You can't tell me God doesn't have a plan for you, Justin. Gone. Um that next year, they're like, well, they didn't even tell me. During that time, they also said like I wasn't gonna be able to play sports, and I was gonna have to check in with them every year after that. I went for that next check-in, everything was fine. They still till this day can't tell what happened. Um on top of that, I'm not really asthmatic no more. Never had a breathing treatment again. Never never inhaler. It was completely different from my childhood after that. But that that night alone set just changed everything. Yeah. Um, so I've been fighting my whole life. Yeah, you've been through a lot.
SPEAKER_02That's I mean, let's be real. Uh, most people that would probably change them for the rest of their life for the worse, but it seems like you used it as fuel to the fire.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I was just like, man, I'm gonna play sports. I'm gonna be the best I can playing sports. I mean, I'm gonna go to school, I'm gonna get the best grades I can. Why not? Yeah, you know, I think it even helped a little bit. I I I kind of like it when I feel like somebody there's a little chip on my shoulder. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that's okay, but like I kind of use it as a motivation, you know?
SPEAKER_02You should. Yeah, yeah, no, you totally should. I mean, what also I like about you, man, I've kind of noticed and learned is you're you're not afraid to talk about your faith or say, you know, God's looking out for you, or whatever it may be, or you know, have you how what God's done in your life? Like, where does that come from?
Losing Yourself And Finding Faith
SPEAKER_00You know, honestly, God has been so good for me. I I grew up, and you said earlier, how can you not say God doesn't have a plan for you? And when you go through all that, you can tell you're meant for something. You don't know what you're meant for, but you he's from day one, he's been making sure I kept going. I kept going. Not only I kept going, I excelled. When people told me, hey, no, you you you should be a special, no, I'm gonna go be in AP classes. No, you're not gonna play sports again. No, I'm gonna be the best athlete I can be, you know. Um, and I just think that right there made me like, I'm so sorry. I caught a cramp in my leg. No, you can't. I was working out hard, you know. I gotta stretch that out. I'm so sorry. You're gonna keep going, just stretch it out. I'm gonna be real with you. I'm in these last days and like oh, we're gonna talk about it. I have yeah, I I know you're we're gonna talk about it. I'm gonna just stretch that out a little bit. You do stretch it out. God is um, he's always looked out for me. Yeah, and um I just think I went away from him and I was broken. I was broken. Um, and I realized that, and um, you know, I made a lot of selfish decisions and I I found myself, no matter what it may look like, cars, um, money, um, you know, playing in the NFL, girls, whatever the case it may look like, I was broken. And um it really took me actually, I like you know, it really took me moving next door to a pastor and finding him again. Imagine that, dog. Yeah, I moved next door to a pastor. Oh, how the Lord works in his ways. And I, you know, I love it. It's it honestly, it moving next door to my pastor has been the best. I I actually gain another uh father figure, yeah. Another father figure, Roma, another man figure, like you know, mentor right next door. Um, and it's really he's he's really actually changed my life.
SPEAKER_02So that's dude, it's well it's huge, right? To when you see another man speaking about their faith in but you also see them living it out, but they're also not afraid to tell you, like, hey, I've screwed up and done this, right? To me, that's very encouraging because it's almost like social media, right? Everyone always wants to put out the best. This is what the bet I mean who wants to put up sob stories on social media, right? I get it. You we don't want to everyone to know our dirt, but you know, to when you can trust somebody and you can talk to them and tell them your struggles, and it's like, hey, I've been there. You're you're yes, you've done some bad things, but there's a way out. We can figure this out, you know.
SPEAKER_00They can get out of it. Yeah, they get that doesn't define them, and like they don't have to keep making the same decisions, and like it's also okay. Like, it's it's oh it's okay that you did that, but like just stop doing it, yeah. You know, stop doing it, you know. We we've all done dirt, you know, and like we all sin with whatever the case may be, but like, you know, I try to tell people um just my truth, and I'm I'm real. Like, I talk to people about um drugs, I've talked to people about girls, I've talked to people about making bad decisions, whatever the case may be, anywhere I can relate to them on, and like I just tell them what it is. That way they can learn sooner than I learn. You know what I mean? I can help them out because most people are sitting there beating themselves up in their head.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I I've lived that. Oh, yeah. I struggle with that still at times. I mean, and it you look at the people and what I call heroes of the faith in the Bible, dude. God didn't call them after they got better. He met them right in their madness, right in the middle of their sin. You'd look at, you know, I said before King David, right? He's still considered a man after God's own heart, even after he committed adultery and had the woman's wife sent to the front line or woman's husband sent to the front lines and killed. Like that's crazy, right? You're talking jail time probably around here or whatever, if that were to happen. If you were to put those people in today's standards, man, they'd be shamed to death. Yet Jesus still called them and he loved them. And he for the woman at the well, right? He told her her sin. But he's like, I'm gonna give you water that's living water that flows for life. Go and sin no more. That's it. Like, I love you. Yes, you've screwed up in the past. I know you're with a bunch of different men that aren't your husband right now, but why don't you go back and change and just don't do it anymore? And it's simple, like we talked about, but yet we complicated. And I relate it back to my own life, Justin, because I was not a good man for a long time, dude. I was arrogant, pompous. I didn't care who I hurt, what I did. I was gonna live for pleasure, for fun. I mean, when you got someone, I was lucky enough to achieve a lot young and early, came with hard work, wasn't handed to me. But you know, you got a guy who's 20, 21, and now I'm working in a career saving people's lives, doing, you know, quote unquote, the dream job. I'm getting fat paychecks for this. I was like, let's go have some fun, man. I walked away from my faith. I was raised in a Christian home. Now, I don't think I made my faith truly my own at that time because I was forced to go to church, right? You're going Wednesday, you're going Sunday, you're going to all the Bible studies. Once I became my own man, I was like, dude, I'm out of here. I'm gonna do my own thing, who cares? And I can't tell you the mess that I made in my life. And even, you know, I was married once and I was very selfish, and I made a lot of mistakes, and I didn't even care. And then I look back on that and there's so much regret, dude. And there's so much shame that that came with that, not just for me, but what I put on my family and what they witnessed. And dude, there's I have I've had everything I wanted, man. I I've I have my homes, I have cars, property, you know, the bank account, whatever you want to call it, my motorcycle. I've been able to surf and go things, do things around the world whenever I want. Yeah, and there came a point, like I was in this room, bed used to be up here, and I remember feeling so broken, dude. I'm thinking, is this it? Is this what everyone calls the top? This is life. Like, I am so utterly empty and broken. And I remember crying that night, and I I I just said, Look, man, I'm gonna give you a month, right? I'm gonna, Lord, take this pain and this shame away. And here I am, right, wagering with the God of the universe like an idiot. Because I was still arrogant at the time, right? I'm gonna give you a month. And I remember that night sleeping the best I ever had, dude. And I woke up that morning, downloaded the Bible app, and I was just all I did was take it a verse a day. And that one month turned to two, three, six. And then my now wife, she was my fiance at the time, and we'd have been through a lot, we were not good to each other. And she changed. She started listening to Greg Glory on the radio and she got baptized. I remember witnessing that, dude. And it's like this was what my third time telling a story, and um, I still it still hits me because it wasn't just words, but when you physically see someone that you love, change. It's powerful. I mean, you're watching the Holy Spirit move, and it's that that right there was like, okay, there's something, there's something to this, and I I need to change here. And we both did, and it healed our relationship to the point you look at now, like people say miracles don't happen. Bro, I'm a miracle. That's what I tell people. Like, for if God can change a man like me, he can change anybody. 100%. I mean, I have my beautiful daughter, and my son's gonna be here in a couple months, and I see the joy and peace in my home and what we have, and it just makes me so utterly thankful because I just don't feel like I deserve it. And yet he still wants to help us and provide for us and give us the things to make us happy because he loves us, and it just brings me to such a place of massive thankfulness, massive, massive thankfulness. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, I put my I have myself in positions where I I could have been killed. I was doing things I should not have been doing and hanging out with people I never should have been around. And I'm thinking now, I'm like, dude, you were running after a runaway the entire time. I didn't even realize it. And that's the beauty of God's love, is like He's chasing everyone. He's just like, open your eyes, man. I'm right here. I have the keys to life. All you have to do is believe in me, right? The greatest story that I tell people is I get asked to speak now with my testimony and stuff, and I have a hard time doing that. Not speaking, but there's this kind of imposter syndrome that I deal with because I know who I was, I know how I can be. Like, who am I to be up on this stage right now? I don't have to serve to be up here, like, dude, can't you go get someone with you, seminary or whatever? But um it's it's gy, or it's not gyros, it's disimus. He was a thief on the cross. And while he was next to Jesus on the cross, he said, truly, you know, remember me when you go into your kingdom. Like he had a realization that Jesus Christ is God, this is this is truly cr uh God in flesh. Yes. And Jesus turned to him and said, Hey, today you'll be with me in paradise. You know what that shows me? It's not about the church you attend, it is not about how much money you give to a church, it's not about how many Bible studies you've been to, none of that. It is instant. He just wants your heart, it's a relationship. And once that finally dawned on me, it just changed everything for me. Like, all right, I'm gonna make this a relationship. It just changed me, man. It would that that unending grace that feels so undeserved is so incredibly beautiful. Then the Bible says that he he trades beauty for ashes, and I'm a living example, Justin, of it. And it just every day I'm so incredibly thankful for it, man.
Coaching For Confidence And Character
SPEAKER_00I love that. I love that. I mean just hearing you talk about them and you keep wondering like why you you're the perfect person. You're the perfect person to be at those speaking at those speaking events because those men need to hear your story. And even listening to your story right now, it's a great example for men to listen to, to realize that you know, God is great, God can change you no matter where you've been, where no matter where you are, he can meet you, and you just gotta trust him, you gotta just live a righteous life. Yeah, just do what do and do what you should be doing anyway. Right? Yeah, be light in this world. Yeah, I mean, in a time where there's so much darkness, just be light in this world, help people, help yourself, be an example, dude.
SPEAKER_02You have something that's pretty cool here. Um you say fitness is the lane, but building something that lasts is the mission. That right there, I I kind of read that a few times. I'm like, dude, this guy's smart, man. I like that. So, like leading from where you were in football to your faith and where you're at now and your business and training. When now to say this too, when we say training, can you just clarify what that is so people know?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, should I like go back and maybe even talk about how I even got into training? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because that's that's I mean, when I read this, right, fitness is the lane, but building something that lasts is a mission. Like, what does that look like in your training and in like long and long term, right? Your training and in long term, because that's almost like a statement for life, man.
100 Men Vs Gorilla Brotherhood
SPEAKER_00You know, I just think training people and getting that that experience, um, you get a chance to really get to know people, right? Get to know people and like it's much more like I I get transformations, we change the body. In fact, all trainers get transformations, that's their job. But like, it's what else what else can you bring to them? And like a lot of these people are training, they have so many other issues, right? So you get a chance to really help mentor them a little bit or make a difference in their life, or my big my favorite thing is this I I watch somebody have a transformation and I love watching their confidence that they gain from it. That confidence goes over not only just how they walk around the gym and how they carry themselves, they go home, their better spouses, their better dads, or better wives, better moms. You know, they go back and they kill it professionally because they feel that much better about themselves. It's it's such a great um thing to see, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I I and that's the that's the part that I really love about it all, you know. And you know, even like when you get somebody else and you you save their life for their health, you know, they they they these are the things that you know in social media, like we're always just looking for abs, bigger glutes, whatever the place may be, like whatever, like no, like change your life and like you know, change your health around, you know, like that that's those are the things that make me want to train more. I I have an awesome community. Um just with everything I've built. Um, I'm sure we'll go into it. Um, but I mean, I just to see my community show up for me uh day in, day out, not just like to I train, but like I host different events. I have this one called 100 men versus gorilla right now. Wait, what? 100 men versus a gorilla versus gorilla, yeah. What the heck is that? It's probably one of my favorite things right now going on in my business. It's a hundred men versus gorilla. Let's go back. Do you remember that viral meme? There's 100 men versus gorilla.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I was just like, let's just I want to create those hundred men that would whoop that gorilla's butt. You know what I mean? But the whole thing is I create this event and we first open up in prayer. I gotta open up in prayer. Let's go. I gotta bless every man in that building. I I set it at 6 a.m. on a Saturday. That way I know people are serious. Who wants it, huh? Who wants it? Oh, let's go. So I'm gonna on Saturday, the gym is still closed. Um, I have a DJ come in there, play some music for us, and we catch a lift. Um, I've had open lifts, but this last time I led the lift and it was awesome. Like I I can't not only did I lead the lift, I did it with them. We died together, it was amazing. And then um, we break bread. Like I make sure we feed them good food. Uh, we feed them good food, and then I bring in a guest speaker. I might have you come in sometime. Hey! Hey, um I'll just plug that in right now, brother. Whatever you need, I'll always be here for you, man. I would I just I love your energy. I think the men would love to hear from you. Yeah, um, we bring in a guest speaker that way. I'm not only working on their physical, but their mental, their spiritual, they're professionally, everything. Um, I want to build better men. And the reason why is men are the leaders of their families. They they they they have a chance to um lead their their wives, their you know, their families, their kids. Yeah, so building better men, it trickles down. Man, like I just feel like I can have a better impact. If I can change a man, make him feel better about do whatever I can to help him so he can help his family out. I'm doing so much more than just a transformation, dude.
SPEAKER_02So you're in there doing the lifts with you're not just telling them what to do, you're doing it. I straight grind it. I love it, and I love it.
SPEAKER_00I'm talking and leading and doing the motions, and I'm like, I can't be the one that died out. But it was it was awesome, and I'll always do it like that from here on out. Has Chris ever done it? Um, no, but he's going to. No, but you haven't done the lift then. I just always comes like um like 30 minutes late. Classic. I love it, dude. Yeah. But Chris is awesome. I'm gonna get him to do it. Yeah. Chris is I'm gonna get him to do the the workout.
SPEAKER_02I love it. So people know Chris is in the studio right now. So he's looking at him laughing, dude. Like, yeah, you can do it, Chris.
SPEAKER_00It so maybe come to the next one. So the next one is gonna be April 25th, and um, I have one of my former teammates from Cal. Um, he's also a um ex-NFL guy. He's actually technically doing all men's yoga out in Chicago right now. So I was like, bro, I'm doing all men's fitness right now. You're doing all men's yoga. This is a great time to link wellness and fitness together for all men's community.
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SPEAKER_00So we're gonna link up our April 25th, and I'm gonna do a little fitness, and then he's gonna come in and do the yoga part, and you know, hopefully we get to bless them in that day. Oh, that's huge! Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh man, I love what you're doing. That is so I I would love well. Look, man, I'm a cardio guy. Okay, I'll cycle and run all day. So you might need to put some five or ten pounders out, dude. No, I could get it done.
Building Madhouse Gym Community
SPEAKER_00Just come hang out with us, man. It's it's the thing is, it's it's for a space for men of all fitness capabilities. And like what I really love about it is we create this brotherhood, and I love it because I remember the first time I ran the event. You know, I guys can walk around the gym and egos and oh yeah, oh yeah. But like after I ran that first event, we had like 40, 50 guys, after that, it was like, what's up, what's up? Hey, what's up? Good energy. It changed the energy of the gym with some of the guys, and I was told that and I was like, I'm on to something. Like huge, I'm on to something. Yeah, and then like, man, I so I can't walk into the gym and I walked in today, said what's up to this guy. Then I walked my client was like, dude, you know everybody. I'm like, this is gorilla. That's so sick, dude.
SPEAKER_02So this gym, what where is this location at? So I'm at Madhouse and Cudday. Madhouse and Cudet. Do you own that gym or is that just where you go?
SPEAKER_00I did not own that gym. I was one of the first trainers at that gym. Uh when the first original we we opened up during the pandemic, um, I was at a gym called Killfit, and the owners of Macrofit, um, which is a meal prep company, we all merged to get merged together and we created Madhouse. Um, so they were supposed to handle all the meal preps and everything. Then we brought all our trainers from Killfit. That was essentially the idea of it all. Things happen. But this gym, best gym right now, so go. Dude, I so it's legit.
SPEAKER_02You chose that location that you cut a hay, right? It's in cut away. Because most I've known trainers throughout the years and they're always like, I need to go to LA or I gotta go to this part in Orange County. This is like the big cities, right? What what made you choose that? That area.
SPEAKER_00I think that was this area of the millpark company, and then the other the other gym was in Bell Gardens, and they picked they found this warehouse. They took over it for the Force 12 that was over there. There was another gym. The vision of the two brothers um that worked there, the vision, it's a crazy, it's it's an amazing gym. Honestly, like, you know, I tell them all the time, I want my own gym, and um, they set the bar so high in there, and it it's an amazing gym. Like, it's it's one of the best gyms out in SoCal Easy. You just have to go there and you're gonna be like, Whoa, like you got this. You we just added actually um Madhouse 2.0, so they um added an expansion, so they got the whole warehouse, and it's like two different vibes and best equipment, you got food, you got you got power lifters in there, you got influence in there, you got regular like regular gym folks just in there. Um it's a solid mix, and then you know, they they do everything, they have events for everybody, which the community of Madhouse is a pretty solid community. What do you think?
Discipline Consistency And Time Management
SPEAKER_02I because I think about this often. Um because there came a point in my life um I I just stopped like I used to, I was very motivated, right? I was doing thrathlons and the ultra marathons and cycling crazy distances, and then I remember going through some hard, hard times, and it was because of my own decisions, of course. Um but what for somebody who's trying to Get fit, get healthy, change their life physically, maybe even spiritually, mentally while they're there with you. What is the biggest downfall when they start? You see people who don't come back or quit. What do you think that is? I've always tried to like figure that out because you can't teach motivation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I just think you know, I just think we gotta remember that things are sometimes like things that are hard are worth having a little bit. And I think sometimes we can't just just give up right away. Like it really is like some consistency, right? Yeah, it's gonna be hard. And like we're just we want to do what we want to do. You want to eat whatever you want to eat, you don't want to work, it's easy to just cop out.
SPEAKER_02Oh, comfort's a slow death, dude.
SPEAKER_00100%. Comfort's a slow death. It's it's tough, and then like you you fall out of rhythm, it's easy to stay out of the rhythm, or like then you get sore and you gotta go through that battle too, you know. And then the thing with the gym is you always have to keep going. You always always have to keep going. You fall stop, you stop, yeah. Then you start seeing change. So like you have to find it and make it a lifestyle. So I think people have a hard time carving out hour, hour and a half for themselves. But why why why can't you give yourself an hour and an hour and a half for your health? It comes down to discipline, right? 100%.
SPEAKER_02My goodness, that's discipline is what I've seen in success myself and others that I work with and other things I've been involved in. It really comes down to discipline. Yeah, holding yourself to a high standard and sticking to it.
SPEAKER_00Gotta stick to it. You gotta commit and like also, like, if something happens, you can't let you like. I think some people are like, oh man, something came up. I can't go today. What was your plan B? Well, what are you gonna do to make up for it? That was another thing. Like, if I didn't, if I didn't get my five days or I lost one of my where am I gonna make up that day? Yeah. And some people just give up and I'm cool, I'll let it go.
SPEAKER_02Well, I I've noticed for myself, like, especially after my daughter was born, it changes everything, right? 100% like your time, like time, everything's just way different, right? And I'm you know, I was 39 having my first kid. I'll be 40 when my son's here, which is wilds me, right? But it was, I remember thinking, okay, if I want to get a 60-mile ride in or run my 10 or 15 miles, I'm gonna have to wake up earlier, right? Because I don't want I I did my thought was I don't want anything that I'm doing, my podcast or um film stuff with Chris or working out to take away from my filming. Now, granted, there's gonna be times where okay, I gotta do this this day. It is what it is. But if it's in my control, and I tell this to probationary firefighters all the time control what you can control. I can control what I eat, I can control going to bed on time and not staying up late. I can control setting my alarm and getting up early a little bit earlier so I can cycle and not take away from my family. Comes down to discipline. Now, let me tell you something. The first day I did it, I was like, oh my god, this is this is gonna suck. But now I'm used to it, right? Now I'm good. I'm good to go. And there still has to be coordination between my wife, right? Yep. And so when I get done cycling, hey, she'll go work out and she'll go to the gym and do her thing. We're together. But that's what I've noticed for myself is okay, I need to shift little things because my life has changed. Doesn't mean it's impossible. I just need to rearrange some things here and wake up a little bit earlier.
Fatherhood Priorities And Legacy
SPEAKER_00Time management is key. Ooh, baby, let's go. 100%. I it's funny you say that. Like, I literally was just like, all right, I'm busy, but this is the here's my little cardio secret that I do. I'm always responding, coming up with content ideas, you know how it is. Oh creative content. And like, I don't want to be next to my girl doing content all night and everything. 100% it happens too, but like what I do is I just walk up a treadmill and a sauna suit, and I'm sitting there. That's a great idea, actually. That way I'll just kill two birds in one stone. So I put a treadmill in my garage, and every morning I wake up earlier than them, and I sit there and I work every morning. That's just kind of like my me time, but at least I'm killing two birds with one stone. Like, I'm doing my hour of cardio and I'm you know, I'm creating content, coming up with promos, doing whatever I need to do, responses, emails, yeah, and that way I at least feel like I'm I'm doing something. Then before you know, I'm done with cardio, and I didn't take any time away from them. Right. I just had to get up early. Again, you said it it sucks at first, but once you're used to it, you're just used to it, you know? Yeah, it becomes a lifestyle. It does become a lifestyle. That's what you gotta do. Yeah, no, dude, 100%.
SPEAKER_02Now, you being a dad, yeah. Um, I say it. We don't need to say our children's names on here. But, anyways, um, did it change my life? You know, becoming a believer and putting Christ first in everything that I do, which I noticed was key to a lot now. Everything I'm like, Lord, I want you in this. I'm gonna pray over this. I want you to just leave me here because I don't want to act like I know what I'm doing. Because a lot of times I'm like, I don't know, I'm just going for it, right? Just trying to figure it out as I go. But man, having my daughter, my first child be my little girl, it softened me so much. And I'm gonna try like again, I'm trying not to cry right now, but it really showed me the love of the father. There's nothing I look at my little girl and I think, you know, she'll be a grown adult one day, but if she makes bad decisions or anything goes wrong, or she, you know, whatever it may be, I'll always bring her home. You'll always have a place in this house. You know, dude, it just there's a love inside of me as a man I didn't know I had. And it's not to say I don't love my wife or my parents or my brother and sister, but it's so different when you have your child. It's it's amazing, it's it's beautiful. So actually, it was a little terrifying at first. I and to be real with you, Justin, when my daughter was born and she came out and they handed her to me, and I was like, looking at her, I'm like, oh my god, you're here. Give her back, we're doing our thing. I remember I stepped out of the the room and I was like, oh my god, I'm an adult. It was the first time I was like, I'm actually a man now, I think.
SPEAKER_00It's funny because I think about everybody asks me, you know, life-changing moments. When you have a kid, your life instantly changes. There's not many times your life really instantly changes, but like as soon as you have a kid, if you're a good parent, your life changes every day on out because every decision you make is for the greater good of that kid. Oh, yes, and it should be. Um, I just think every time I look at my daughter, um she just I have to make the best decisions. I have to I have to be there no matter what. Like, I am no matter what going to be there for her, no matter what, no matter anything. And so I always know that if I make the best decisions, it's gonna allow me to do that for her. And she's always watching. She needs she needs somebody, she's gonna emulate somebody, it's gonna be me. So I gotta make sure I'm doing the right things, and like they watch everything. Oh my god, they watch everything. So like I I laugh, I love my daughter so much, man. It's she's such a pure energy, and like she's the heart, her heart is gold. And um I just man, being a dad, being a girl dad is something truly, truly, truly special. Oh, it's like beautiful, yeah. It's so special, man. Yeah, and I I embraced it from day one. I know some dads are like scared to grab. I was like right there, skin-to-skin contact, changing diapers, dancing, doing everything with her, doing her best. I learned to braid the hair, everything, man. I I and I still try to braid her hair, so I love it. I we're close, we're close. I it's cool because um she was two during the pandemic. Oh, and so she was two during the pandemic. What were we doing during the pandemic? We were home hanging out, yeah. So I think that that allowed me and her to get really, really, really, really close because well, yeah, everything shut down, everything was shut down. So we I think that's why we're we're really close because we got to spend a lot of time together, and it's we've that's just my that's my little bestie right there.
SPEAKER_02Well, when I see a band, any man that puts their family first and their children and they're working hard, like I have so much respect for them. Because it is difficult, man. It's not uh it's I think it's the best thing that's ever happened to me, and I love her to death, but yeah, it changes your thought, and there's worries and fears, and I gotta provide and this and that. Where am I putting my time? Is this wasting my time? Like, I don't wanna I can always make more money. Um, we can always get more things, but that time with my daughter or my wife, I'll never get back. Your time is priceless, yeah. You know, so I'm always like, where am I putting my time?
SPEAKER_00That's it's that is the main thing. Spend quality time with your kids. Yeah, spend quality time with your kids, and then again, if you have that partner like you do, I have a partner that helps me out. And like, I just they allow me that my partner allows me to do everything I can for my daughter, and she spends time with I just it's truly special though when you spend quality time, it's not about doing and spending all this money, they just want them time, yeah. Like, just what the other day I kid you know, I let my my daughter put makeup on me.
SPEAKER_01It happens, it's every girl every girl dad's worst nightmare, but you just gotta let it happen.
SPEAKER_00And like she she sat there the next day, she was like, Dad, thank you so much. I had so much fun, and I'm just like it was 20 minutes, it was 20 minutes of just letting her put makeup on me. She had a blast, shit blasts. I looked like a fool, but she had a blast.
SPEAKER_02Well, dude, I mean, even in those time, like time, right? And even growing up, we didn't have much. My dad was a career cream beret, right? Military, so it's not like we had a lot, but we don't remember that as kids. Yeah, it was the time and the like the camping that we did, it was so much fun, right? I don't remember like kids don't care about your bank account, how big your house is, your car. We had I think six or seven people in a 1400 square foot home in Lakewood. We didn't care, it was a blast. It's a blast. It sounds like a good time. It was so much fun, man. So I look back on those times, and those are the things I want to create with my family, especially when my son gets here, is spending that time with them, right? Because I and it's almost one of one of those things like my wife and I have noticed, even in Christmas, we'll get each other like little things, but we don't we don't go out and buy big extravagant stuff because we'd rather spend that money doing stuff together as a family and going some to the beach or going camping or going somewhere creating those memories because that is what's gonna last. Yes, you know, this the other day it was a week ago. Okay, I was working in the backyard uh getting ready because I was gonna have family over for barbecue. And I came back in the house, and my wife had just put my daughter's new shoes on her. She's finally like walking, walking everywhere. She keeps her hands up kind of high. It's the cutest thing. And I open the door and she comes around the the island uh in the kitchen, and she just goes, Hi, dad, dad. Just stomping, bro. I melted right there. I want to just cry. I was like, Oh my god, you know, I'm just like I'll never forget that. I will never take my home, take my cars, take my mother, everything like that. Was everything to me?
SPEAKER_00It's beautiful. It it gets better and better, but cherish those days, man. Like, I'm I miss the dad. They're getting older now, they get a little sassy. Get a little bit of opinion, and then at the same time, they'll be right underneath. Like, I love my daughter, it's so funny. Like, she gotta she has to touch me all the time. She has to like be just be touching me next to dad, and like she doesn't even know she's touching me, she's just leaning on me a little bit, and I just like she loves me. That's you know, and like I'm just always going to cherish every moment I have with her. But man, I your daughter, that's that's like such a great age, right there.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I missed that age. It's amazing, dude.
Numbers Versus The One Person
SPEAKER_02I didn't honestly, I never thought I would have a family. I got to the point where I was like, okay, well, and there's another miracle what Laura's done. Like, I wasn't really supposed to be able to have children. So that there was a there was a me issue, right? And I remember going to the doctor, and they're like, hey, we see these issues with a lot of firefighters. So that gear we wear, yeah, the uh they call it turnout gear, right? It's the gear we put on, we fight fire protects us and all that. He said, do not put that on unless you have to, unless your SLPs, your guidelines at work say you have to wear it on certain calls like fires and rescues and car accidents. Do not put it on. There's a huge infertility problem that happens with a lot of firefighters. So it's like, okay, I'm just gonna do that. And of course, they're like, you know, take a cold shower and this and eat, you know, eat healthier or whatever. Dude, uh, the count went up, everything was good. And I remember my wife came to me, she's like, I'm pregnant. And then I remember going and walking outside because I was kind of like, wait, well, I've been chilling my whole life, right? I ain't got no kids, I've been enjoying my life, you know? Yeah. And I I went for a walk and I remember I remember distinctly just walking and just saying, thank you. Thank you for this. This is truly a gift. And what's tough for me in my line of work is we see a lot of people who don't take care of their children, abuse and other things, and it just breaks my heart because I'm thinking, it's true. What the Bible says is so true. Your children are a gift and a heritage. Yes, that is from God, man. Like you better take care of them, you better do everything you can. And I see that now. The excitement I have for my son to get here. I'm like, dude, God, can we hurry up here? Like, let's get, you know? Yeah. So it's it that's why you know, seeing you and the way you talk about your faith, the community and the training that you do with people, uh, we need more men to be bold and to take care of business, to be leaders. That's huge. And one thing I I do want to tell you is that that community aspect is huge. When I gave my life to the Lord, I lost a lot of friends. There was a lot of people I hung out with that are like, you're not the same guy anymore. You know, it's like, well, I just don't. It was interesting. It's like I just didn't have a desire to do certain things anymore. It just kind of went away, right? Yeah, it was like it was just kind of gone. I don't want to. I'm like, man, it's just not me. And I prayed about it because it hurts, right? These are people you thought, oh, they're always gonna have my back. Yeah, uh then boom, they're gone, disappear. And but I can see the people that Christ has now brought in my life, that community and those people, Chris being one of them. And now you and some other people have come in, and I think I didn't lose, I gained, baby. There it is, you know, because we've talked about this where you know, sometimes when a door closes or something ends, yeah, it could be hard and it hurts, but a lot of time, uh like a lot of times a no is really protection. And it's a setup for something that's greater to come, but you gotta be patient, you gotta trust God. And I've had to live that and walk that. And I'm gonna tell you, I'm an impatient person, Justin. Yeah, I'm like, dude, I want stuff now. We gotta work hard, we gotta make opportunity, we gotta do this. And and that's the one thing I learned is Christ, he's never late, he's never early, he's right on time, and he's gonna bring the right people in your life, especially when you change your life. And I've I see it happening, and again, it puts me in a place of thankfulness because now I have the right people who who want actually the best for me, who will call me out on my BS, who will say, dude, like you're off today, what's going on? Ah, dude, I'm dealing with this. Like, all right, well, let's pray, let's handle this right now. It's like, oh, wait, what? Oh, yeah, let's let's do that. You know, so the community aspect of what you're doing is huge. And I don't think people realize we we need community, we're not meant to be alone. That's even biblical. Yeah, we need community, but uh for just speaking from a man's standpoint, you want to be around other men with the same goals, the same mindset who want to build and be great together. 100%.
SPEAKER_00So what you're doing's huge, man. It's um man, you just said so much right now. I was like, oh man, there's so many things to touch on. Um, from one of the bad one of the last takeaways from my 100 men versus gorilla event was I was chasing a hundred men, a hundred men, a hundred men. And the last one, we uh we scheduled a date, and sometimes you just have a bad date. A lot of people are doing different things, you know. Yeah, even alone at the gym, we had our grand opening. Look, we didn't have the biggest turnout, but it was the best one yet. And so many people told me it was the best one yet. And like we had about 15 guys in there, and it was special. And then I took it away as this. The quality of the man is what I'm really chasing. I just need the right men. I don't need a hundred men, like we'll we'll build in numbers, but we just need the right men. And you you started touching about the community and having the right people and gaining the right people versus being around the wrong. I will a hundred percent choose having the right crowd around me versus having people that are not in for me in my corner.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Well, we always look at numbers, right? That's that's inherently right. Instagram, well, how many followers do they have, right? How many views am I getting on this? God doesn't work that way, and that's going through my Bible studies and reading reading the Bible. It's he does not see things the way that we do, right? It's so different. And and you hit on a point because I remember doing and giving my testimony and doing this event, and I'm like, all right, we're gonna help plan out my cool, we're gonna do this, we're advertising, we've got sponsors, people give money. Cool, show up, dude. Like 12 people came. I remember standing, I was in the back, and they did worship, and I was like, and I hate to say this, but I was like, dude, what a waste. I can't believe oh 12? This is so so ridiculous. But then I was like, you know what? Whatever, I'm gonna go out there, I'm just gonna give it my all. And I spoke for about 40 minutes and I just went for it. And it's funny because I remember I had the stuff written down, never looked at it. Right? I'm just I'm just gonna go for this. And the night ended, and it was really cool actually after I remember thinking, you know what, I'm in the wrong mindset. Well, a month later I got a message on Instagram from this dude, and it was he attended that thing. He's like, Oh, I saw your ad and I attended, and he said, I just wanted to tell you that that night was amazing, and I got baptized uh a week later. And I'm sorry, I'm crying because, dude, I was it goes to show you like it's about the one. God chases the one, dude. If you can change one person's life, you you change the world, man. It's not about changing the world, it's changing someone's world. And I remember seeing that, and I I I cut off the message and I was like, Lord, I'm so sorry. I I totally looked at this through my own eyes and my own vision. I wanted numbers, and if it was just him that you were going after and you use me, amen. There it is, amen, dude. It's not the numbers, it's the people, man. It's who are there. You want to impact those lives, man. 100%. So it's like you throw that rock into the lake, yeah, right, and you see those ripple effects. You never know what that one person's gonna do, who they're gonna become. You never know. You have no idea, man. So the community and what you're doing, keep going. I appreciate it. You gotta keep going, man, because we may not see the lives we impact now, but you'll see it in the next. 100%.
SPEAKER_00Like um man, you said it. It's just affecting one that's all. That's all. And but the the thing is this I saw the quality of men that day, and I know the quality of the men that missed something, but there's something something really special brewing with that hundred men and gorilla. And you know, I I was going back and forth being like, oh, maybe I'll just make it every other month. No, I'm gonna make it every month. And you know, those who want to be there will be there and we'll keep doing it. And the right men will want to be there, and we will grow, we will grow, and it's becoming something special. Um, again, I love opening it up in faith. We keep it faith-driven. I I keep God in the beginning of everything that I do. I do it with my relationship with my lady, I do the relationship with my my daughter, I do it in business, I um with my teammates, my my clients, everything. Um I always bring them up. If I have that foundation, I'm upset.
SPEAKER_02Well, at the end of the day, brother, I have yet to see a hearse pulling a bank account behind it to the grave or their cars or their certificates or whatever achievements they had. Because really, at the end of the day, most of that stuff doesn't even matter. Don't right? That's not what the Lord's looking at, right? Did you accept me accept me into your life? Did you have a relationship with me, man? Did you tell people about me? So you stand before him and reality check for people who are listening. You will. There, there's there's no doubt about it. None of us are getting off this earth live. 100%. There is a day you were born, there's a day when it's gonna be over. And I I find it so interesting how you know we prep so hard. We gotta go to college and we gotta get the career, and I gotta do this, and I gotta build these things, and I gotta do all that because this is what life is, and this, you know, this is what culture says. But you don't want to prepare for the end of life. Like, this is coming, it'll come at any time. Like, you better be ready.
SPEAKER_01All the signs are there, get right.
Bodybuilding Prep And Posing Grind
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, oh yeah. So, dude, I I respect it so much, man. Now, you're going to be in a competition tomorrow. No, next next week a week, yeah. Okay, and so here I'm gonna say this right, and I mean this not in any weird way, but like I looked at your Instagram, okay, and I I'm gonna reference Tropic Thunder, right? Rip Mike, dude, this guy's more shredded than a Julian shallot, baby. Okay, I was like, is there I think he's got 18 abs. Right?
SPEAKER_01You're like, turn this way and said 18 last night.
SPEAKER_02Your arms popping. I'm like, dude, this guy's coming on my podcast, and I'm like this skinny cyclist. This is embarrassing. Here we go. But dude, that that takes a lot of work. That's a A lot of work. Like people don't understand it's the amount of time. Oh, dude, your diet, your sleep, your exercise, the the you know the how you're lifting the weights and getting certain poses and everything you want to get done. What got you into that and to this place now to do that? Because that is hard work. I'm talking hard work.
SPEAKER_00I'm I'm gonna be so honest with you. I don't know how I got into this. I like the fact that I'm gonna be up there in a speedo. I do know how to buy it.
SPEAKER_01Posing in front of their members of butt glue.
SPEAKER_00Is there butt glue? You gotta put butt glue in those things? Well, I don't know about a butt glue. No one told me about nothing but butt glue.
SPEAKER_02So I I think cheerleaders do that. I used to remember because I dated cheerleader for a while, but she's like, Yeah, we use this butt glue to keep our panties stuck to our butt or something. I don't know. Oh, yeah. You're gonna be full thong.
SPEAKER_00I heard the it's on the thong. It's like booty shorts. It's like booty shorts, and uh, my boy's telling me that I have to go get a space and butt naked. Do the do the thong, bro. Just do it. I might as well at this point, honestly. I might as well. Um, how do I get in this? Um, well, I first of all, everyone's like, oh man, you do great, you do great at being bodybuilding. I was like, yo, I'll do a show. I got a trainer. Um, and then we set a date, and then I was talking to some guys, and I decided that I needed a trainer in person. So I went back to one of my other guys that was training. His name is Casey. He shout out to Casey. What up, Casey? Casey is a great coach. He's out of Fit Nation. So if you guys looking for a good coach, Casey's the man. I'm a good coach. Casey's the man, though. I gotta I gotta say, Casey's got me right. Um, Casey has been on me since I went back to Casey in December. Uh last year? December, like in 2025. Okay, okay. I when I went back to him, he was like, Look, you said you want to do a show. Let's get a date. What's the date? What's the date? What's the date? What's the date? So he's just he's just pushing you. He's just I love it. All right, so here's the date. So I was like, all right, man, we're 12 weeks out, we're 11 weeks out, we're six weeks out. Oh man, this is coming. Like, so you know, now we're talking about the sleep, the diet, the nutrition. Um, first of all, for the nutrition, my girl has fed me every meal pretty much. So I know, I know. I that's why I'm gonna shout her out too. Thank you so much. Her and her mama, her and mama feed me all the time. I love it. Um, it's it's been a whole household, honestly, just making sure staying on top of me. Um the cardio versus straight training. I think people think it's working out. No, it's two different things. Like it's 60. Now I'm doing 80 minutes of cardio a day, pretty much, and then I have to lift, um, and it's every day. But then the posing look, the posing is so hard. I think people watch maybe Mr. Olympia and all these guys, and how graceful and how good, like it is hard. I am oh you're oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and they're like smiling, they're you know, they're like it takes a lot of practice, and that's when I realized that bodybuilding, and like you know, it is a sport. And I know it's probably been said it's a sport, but like it is a sport, it's a I have such respect for the professionals that do this. It's hard. Anybody thinking like, oh, this NFL guy was gonna be able to do this, and like, no, I I've worked my butt off for this, and um and I just have so much more respect for bodybuilding. Um it's it's funny to me because sometimes you know, you know, in life, we go different directions, right? I went the football direction, you know. Some people don't get into fitness into whatever, but there's some kids that start bodybuilding early, you know what I mean? And like I just it's a whole nother world, and I I just have so much appreciation for it. Um I'm looking forward to this first show and competing. Um, at first I was like, man, I just want to finish, but like now I want the W. I want to win. I want to win, I want to put it out there. Oh, yeah. I know I know I can't control what the judges are looking for that day, but man, I feel really pumped about the package me and my coaches put together. And um, I know I'm gonna show well that day.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, and it's just been a great experience. Like, all right, I'm already thinking about what I want to do in the offseason. Um, I am going to do one more show after that just to see how much I can grow. Like, how much can I grow? Get the feedback, what what areas I need to work on and how much I can grow. And like that's that's gonna be the win for me. Will I continue doing bodybuilding after that? Who knows? But I'm definitely gonna do one more show just to see how much I can push myself to grow from the feedback that I get.
SPEAKER_02Always pushing yourself, dude. My gosh, that's the thing I'm getting from you, dude. Always push for more. I love it.
SPEAKER_00That, yeah. And I also wanted to like show people like do something, you know. I think a lot of people are scared to do something, get in like most growth comes from being in an uncomfortable situation. So baby, yeah, I'm gonna say that's the truth. And like, what's more uncomfortable than getting in a speedo in front of everybody imposing in a sport that you've never done before? You know? So, like, I I usually sit at 255, 260. I'm I'm a big guy. Like, I think you know, I'm lean right now. I've always felt like I had a nice body, but like, man, I look at me now like, dude, I'm cut, like, this is this is it, you know. I had to work for this. I had to work for this. And I hope my clients, I hope anybody that sees this podcast and realize like this uh ex-offensive lineman who was 330 or just sees my before and after, even where I was at just in December. Like, man, I worked for this. I I I I learned like my posing, like it's still not the greatest. Don't get me wrong, because I'm new to this, but like, man, from where I started to where I am right now, like I'm in practicing. Like, you know, you're gonna have to practice, you're going to have to put in work if you want to achieve anything. And it's not always going to be easy. It's not always gonna become like you're going to have to you can push yourself. And I just hope that anybody that sees this has the courage to start and to continue to keep going. Don't get just uh discouraged if it if it doesn't seem like it's it's working fast enough. Because I remember being in my garage, I'm just like dude, I don't know, I don't know about posing. Like I just don't get it. Like, but you know, again, I just kept practicing. Just like anything. I went to practice, right? Practice, practice, practice, practice. Gotta coach, right? Coaches need coaches too. Gotta coach. Just like I expect my clients, they they're paying me. I'm I'm there to like I gotta coach too. So I I just that's that's why I did this, you know. I hope people see this.
SPEAKER_02It was yeah, you want to see how far you can go. Yeah, to to put a goal in front of yourself and see if you can reach that goal and go beyond that.
SPEAKER_00Look, to to be to see uh the other day I saw I was 238 and 4% body fat. And I was like, what? Like 238, 4% body fat? Like that in itself has been, and do I think I'm 4% body fat? I don't know, but to see the machine say that, I was like, man, I worked, I worked hard. I remember this thing when I started, was 14. So I mean, dude, you gotta be proud of yourself.
SPEAKER_02I mean, think about where you were years ago, right? At 250, 300 pounds, and now look at you. That is proof in itself that if you put hard work, dedication, and discipline truly you can be anything you want to be. Right. I say this so many times when we get we get new uh recruits and firefighters. We live in America. Okay, people die to come here to try and get here, right? In this country, as long as you work hard for something and you put in all the effort, you can truly be anyone that you want to be. And I pull out, and the one thing I always do is I pull up becoming an astronaut and all the qualifications. I'm like, all right, here you go. Now you need to, you know, join the military, whatever it is, master's degree, mathematics, blah, blah, blah. I was like, that's not for me. I'm not drawn to it, but if you are, here you go. Now go for it.
SPEAKER_03Go for it.
SPEAKER_02Right? So I always tell them, your life is in your hands. If you don't pass this academy or you don't get to where you want to go in life, you have no one to blame but yourself. Because a lot of them are very young, 21, 22, and they're just sitting there just like, I'm like, we're just gonna give you a hard reality check right now. You're responsible for yourself. You are a team member here, you need to work hard, you need to study and keep your academics up, you need to stay physically in shape. It's just not impossible. But if you don't meet the standard, it's not gonna happen. You're gone, right? And I tell them it pays to be a winner. Hard work and discipline will get you anywhere, but you have to put the work in. You have to. That's it. So I'm excited for you, man. I I personally I we're gonna talk more after this because I'm like, eh, maybe I could show up here. Is it okay if I like paint my face and have my shirt off and have a bouncing head of you? Please do. Okay, I'm gonna get Chris to come. We'll do it together. Please do.
SPEAKER_00No, honestly, I'm gonna be looking at you while uh while while I'm flexing.
unknownI love it.
SPEAKER_00I'll look at you too, babe.
SPEAKER_01But uh look at him.
How To Reach Justin
SPEAKER_00That's pretty big.
SPEAKER_02And Logan. I love it, dude. I freaking love it. Where can somebody wants to talk to you about training or do we call it coaching? I want to make sure I'm using the right terminology here. Coaching, training.
SPEAKER_00Um I I like to term coach, you know, coach, okay, coach, but trainer, coach, it's all interchangeable. How do they get in contact with you? Um, they can always reach out to me on Instagram. Okay. Um, Justin underscore Cheetle. Cool. And you're you're the guy that's posing in the that's your like profile picture, right? Yeah, I actually I think that poses. Um I have some of my community behind me. I think I did a boot camp that day.
SPEAKER_02Oh, dude, you look jacked. So I was like, damn, this is boy. You know, I love it, dude. Um man, thank you so much for for coming on the podcast, dude. I'm humbled that you you're here, that you responded to the email. You have a lot to offer to people, this life, your family. Keep going. There we have we know how life is, there's setbacks, but I do believe there is a calling on your life, and you need to see that through. Nothing's impossible, Doc. You can do anything, man.
SPEAKER_00I really appreciate being here today, being in this space, meeting you today. And um, I want you to keep doing what you're doing. You're supposed to be in every room you're talking to, and I urge you to get into more rooms because you're special, your story, everything you're given, and more is coming. So be ready for that.
SPEAKER_02I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes I doubt my I call Chris.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, I'm out, I don't know what I'm doing. Chris, I suck.
SPEAKER_00Your your energy is amazing. Um, it's gonna go far. Um, this relationship right here is gonna go further beyond this podcast because I man, you're great peoples. You're great people. I appreciate that, man.
SPEAKER_02It came with uh it came through some hard struggles and bad decisions, but um I'm just thankful that the Lord kept chasing after me, dude.
SPEAKER_00You know, those make the best people though.
SPEAKER_02Uh you know what, man? I agree with you.
SPEAKER_00I those make the best people, yeah.
Rapid Fire Would You Rather
SPEAKER_02Because I look back and I'm like, dude, I don't ever want to go back to that lifestyle. That was terrible, dude. 100%. It was so much, so much madness and drama, but dude, God is just so good. That's all I could say. And I'll tell you this: my favorite verse that I hold so dear to my heart is Isaiah 43, 2. When you go through deep waters, I will be with you. And I know that God's promises are true. I've seen it in my life, I've seen it in others, and I hold that so close because there's times where you know still hard things happen or I'm in a weird, difficult situation at work or see terrible things. I'm like, all I say is I just need you right now. Guide me and lead me, man. He always has, he's always come through. And I look back, I'm like, dang, dude, I got through that. Thank you. Like, I appreciate that. That's him. He's always with you. Yeah, man. So, real quick, we used to do this in the early years of podcast. We're gonna do it again. It's just three, three quick questions, nothing inappropriate. I told you that. We don't I don't do that. Uh, but I just want to see it because you'll answer and I'll answer. Maybe I'll uh get your lady to come over here on the mic real quick and let her answer too, or Chris. But all right, your first one, you ready? Sure. Okay. This is answer the internet. Okay. Would you rather live in colonial times or the year 2500?
SPEAKER_00Do I get it? Do I gotta give a why or just can I just say the answer? It's you can whatever way you want. I'm just gonna 2500. Okay. Okay. Why?
SPEAKER_02Gotcha, baby. 2500 sounds fun. 2500 sounds good.
SPEAKER_00Sounds sounds cool.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, I would too. And I'm I'm just gonna say this. I'm just so I'm I'm mixed, half black, half white. Because I know if I was in colonial times, um, I'd be a slave. You said it.
SPEAKER_00I still want to say I ain't going back then.
SPEAKER_02Nah, dude, I ain't serving anyone's food, okay? Like we're we're out of here, dude. I'm I'm right there with you, dude. I'm right there with you. Okay. Second one. You ready? Yep. Okay. Would you rather okay? What what what how old are you again? I'm 37 now. Okay, we're the same generation. So you're gonna you're gonna know this reference, okay? All right. Would you rather be stuck in Jurassic Park or Jumanji? I saw this. I loved it because I was like, ooh, that's a good question.
SPEAKER_00Would I rather Jumanji seems fun? I agree. Yeah, Jumanji seems to be a little bit. Jumanji seems out of control, dude. Out of control.
SPEAKER_02Jumanji seems fun. I'm gonna say Jumanji. Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I would rather be in Jumanji, and hopefully Robin Williams will be there, you know? Kind of make it a little bit fun. Jurassic Park just seems like death.
SPEAKER_00That's what I was thinking of. I'm like, I already know how this is gonna end, you know? Jamanji at least be a little bit.
SPEAKER_02Well, dude, the Raptors. That's what I remember like the scene the Raptors. I'm like, dude, we're we're I would die. Yeah, there's no way. There's no way.
SPEAKER_00It's not making out that one. So yeah, no. Jumanji at least out of the shot.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, dude. Rhino's running down the street, dude, taking over the world. I'm in, dude. Okay. This is your last one. Are you ready? I'm ready. Okay. Which group is worse? I love this, okay? I love God. I can't wait. I'm really interested in what you're gonna say. Okay, which group is worse? Okay. The people who clap during a movie or the people who clap when the airplane lands.
SPEAKER_00Oh, the people that clap during the airplane.
SPEAKER_02100%. I just don't understand. 100%.
SPEAKER_00I don't understand it.
SPEAKER_02What's your what's your lady's name? Elvira. Elvira? Can you come over here real quick? Come on. I want you to answer this question.
SPEAKER_01She's sore too?
SPEAKER_02You come out. You have her doing the gym workout?
SPEAKER_01She's a trainer too. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Here, you can come right over here to this microphone, okay? So, which group is worse? The people who clap during a movie or the people who clap when the airplane lands. Go ahead. Um, definitely the airplane. Sometimes I'm just waking up from a nap. Let me see.
SPEAKER_01Just waiting.
SPEAKER_00That's the person. That's it. You're right. You're exactly right.
SPEAKER_02You got a good woman right there to do that. I love that, dude. Just won't. Chris, you gotta answer this question. Get on the mic. Get on the mic. Get over here, Chris. We're gonna ask you again. Everybody, this is the world famous Chris Cova. Okay, so I'm gonna ask you a question again, okay?
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Which group is worse? Okay. The people who clap during a movie are the people who clap when the plane lands.
SPEAKER_01You gotta go airplane.
SPEAKER_02Why? Nope.
SPEAKER_01How are you gonna uh applaud someone for doing their job? Oh he's doing their job. Doing their job. I yeah, it's art, you know. Yeah, it's a show. Yeah, it's supposed to be clapped.
SPEAKER_02I got yeah, yeah. I I I'll be honest with you guys, I clap the movie. I get lost, I get lost in the theater, in the movie, in the story. I'm the one clapping.
SPEAKER_01I appreciate a really good movie. Yeah, 100%. Like a really good movie stand-up all club.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and it's really something the kid movies. Yeah, when we get to Chris the kid movies, yeah. When Chris finally gets one of his movies in the theaters, guess who's gonna be clapping at the end? Us. Us, yeah, dude.
Prayer And Final Sendoff
SPEAKER_01It'll be like I freaking know that guy.
SPEAKER_02I love it, dude. Well, again, you know what, dude? I want to do this for you right now. Uh before while we end, I'm gonna pray for you. Let's do this, dude. Heavenly Father, thank you for this time with Justin and his lady and just Chris and everyone who's here in this room. Um, Lord, you ordain this, and we thank you so much for your grace and what you've done for all of us. Father, be in Justin's life, in the things that he pursues, the people that he coaches, the communities, and whatever is going on in his life, Lord, please have your hand on it. Take care of his family and be with him, Lord, and let him continue to touch the lives of people that he serves, Lord. We thank you so much for your grace and your mercy. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. I love it, man. Well, we're gonna do a let's go on through. You ready? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. One, two, three. Let's go. Bye, everybody.
