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Faith, Identity, and Political Activism: Gentry Gevers
Gentry Gevers sheds light on social media censorship and political discourse in our latest episode. Hear firsthand how Gentry's unapologetic stance on politically sensitive topics led to multiple account deletions across major platforms like Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. We examine the trials of rebuilding a digital presence and the unique dynamics of social media communities. This is a must-listen for those curious about the realities of free speech online and the peculiarities of California's regulation landscape.
Have you ever wondered what it's like to go viral? Gentry shares his story of unexpected fame as a Trump supporter in Seattle and the controversial journey that followed. We tackle the importance of voicing opinions regardless of backlash and reflect on the intertwining of personal faith and political beliefs. The episode takes a critical look at recent societal shifts, focusing on the contentious visibility of LGBTQ+ issues, especially concerning children, and the broader implications of identity politics.
Our conversation with Gentry also hits on the power of voting and standing up for conservative values. Through Tim, Jordan, and Gentry’s stories, we explore the sacrifices made for the freedom to express diverse beliefs and the importance of participating in the democratic process. The episode also touches on the shifting political landscape, economic inequality, and the potential for government control—ending with an inspiring discussion on the transformative impact of faith and community. Tune in for an episode that challenges you to think, engage, and stay true to your convictions.
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Gentry Jeevers. Welcome to the podcast, my friend.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me, guys. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, super cool, jordan, good to have you.
Speaker 3:Of course, yeah, I'm so glad we're making it work. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude Gentry, you and I have kind of exchanged messages. I would say, what a couple of years now. Something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I was like, hey, if you're ever in Southern California, come on the podcast, but now since we have this virtual, it makes it a lot easier and so people know I follow Gentry on social media. So if you don't, we will put that up when we post videos and all that we'll talk about on here. But please follow him because I love what he posts. A lot of political stuff which we're going to talk about here. A lot of the things that the media won't put up Gentry puts up and I love it, and it seems like you've actually garnered quite a following now with what you're kind of putting up, right uh, yeah, it's been.
Speaker 2:It's been really fun. I I have been deleted more than a few times.
Speaker 1:I will tell you so you mean like, you mean your your instagram account deleted?
Speaker 2:yeah, what? So this is my second instagram account. I've had three tiktoks. I've had two Twitter accounts back before Elon bought it, but I've I've I've had like a quarter million followers deleted just like that because I'm posting truth and they don't like it. So I've been deleted a few times for some of the the, the trans stuff that I put up COVID stuff, my, my, my biggest account was on Tik TOK. I had 120,000 followers. Like a hundred thousand video was like the average. So just crushing it there and then it's all gone.
Speaker 2:And I'll tell you guys something Um, I I know people who have been deleted more than me, but so I'm not trying to like get this moniker of the most censored person online, right, but I'm pretty censored and it's demoralizing when you have to start from zero. Yeah, horrible, because you build momentum, you build a following, you build a community in the comments. I mean, if you look at the comments, they're, um, I get some weird comments like actually all the time now, because we're we're hitting 57 000 followers on on instagram now, which is which is great, uh, but you know, there's, there's a community built, there's, there's friendships that are built. Uh, it's this getting deleted is a bummer. I'm trying. It sucks playing between these lines. What?
Speaker 1:Gentry's going on. A good one here, jordan's losing. I know, dude, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3:I put a zit in right before this conversation and I just inhaled a little saliva. So oh, buddy, keep going.
Speaker 2:I put a zit in right before this conversation, and I just inhaled a little saliva. So oh, buddy, keep going. What you got, you got you got wintergreen or you got.
Speaker 3:We're in California where you can't choose your flavor, so it's chill, is the the only ones we can. We can get over here.
Speaker 1:Technically, California did away with flavored zin. This is the land of no fun, by the way.
Speaker 2:It's selective, fun right. California still, regardless of the politics, is still one of the best places in the world. I don't know. I was just in Huntington Beach, I think in February or something like that OK, and that place is just amazing. Politics suck, but Discord.
Speaker 3:I mean it's it's, it's one of the few places that don't really have seasons, and if you grew up out here, you are not good at traveling, because or at least for me personally because, like you know, you go to other states or you go places where it actually is cold or snows and I'm like I'm out, you know you get that one or two days and then you're like people live in this. You know, like functionally, and I just I don't know I'm weak in that way and I just I don't know I'm weak in that way. But yeah, the politics of this state are not. I'm not a big fan of it, you know. It's like you can choose to have an abortion but you can't pick a flavor of nicotine pouch. You know what I mean. Like, I just feel like we're all over the place.
Speaker 1:That's a very good point. That's a very good point. Now, gentry, you were talking about like your following, and you made very good point. That's a very good point. Now, gentia, you were talking about like your, your following, and you made a good point right Community, which, which that's what social media is for right Community. Now, it has gotten a little crazy online, especially. Uh, I know I remember you putting a post about your Twitter. Um, I have a Twitter. I don't really have a great following on there, for some reason. I have a lot of people that follow me on on Instagram, but following on there, for some reason, I have a lot of people that follow me on on instagram. But, dude, twitter is like the wild west. Still, I mean, there is some crazy stuff getting posted on there. Dude, crazy, crazy stuff it's.
Speaker 2:I think opening up free speech to a point is actually a really good thing because it'll get regulated, not necessarily by the platforms or by the government, but just by the comments, really. So there's always a supply and demand right in any industry, and with social media it's attention. And if you get a whole bunch of these like leftist accounts or OnlyFans, only fans girls, or you know these terrorist people on on twitter, and then you know people see that and you're like, oh, that's terrible, we have to regulate, I don't think that's the right way to do it. I think the the way to combat speech, especially speech you don't like, is with more speech, not regulation, and so. So, with Elon buying X and opening it up, it's like, at least from the political perspective, conservatives are dominating that platform for a good reason, because we've been censored on every other platform. But that doesn't mean that you know, the left can't go dominate it, or some of these other pockets of social media can't dominate it too. So, um, I feel like the more speech that's on the internet, the better it is.
Speaker 2:I'm not a free speech absolutist. Um, I I think that you know there's definitely some people that can go ahead and incite violence and I'm not for that at all Trying to figure out where that line is for me. I'm not a regulator, so it doesn't really matter what I think, but I think some of the rhetoric that's been pushed from the left the last eight years on mainstream platforms like CNN, abc, instagram, twitter, tiktok I mean you name it that Trump is Hitler, I think really caused the assassination attempt last week and I feel like not last week, three weeks ago, sorry, so much has happened in the last three weeks. It feels like it's been 10 years. So much, especially in the political world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, it's a lot's gone down. I mean, dude, we could probably have a four-hour podcast just on the past. I would say even week and a half. I mean, there's so much going on that's underreported, such as the petrol dollar, Saudi Arabia going from that, I mean that's a pretty big deal.
Speaker 3:You have to search to find information about that. You have to search to find information about that. That's how pocketed that stuff is. They're like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2:Let's look more about this trans boxer beating up a woman, which that's important news. Here's the problem. It's all important, right, it's all important, but there's stuff that's going on in the background, kind of like you're saying, with the rest of the world transitioning from the dollar to bricks or you know another system, or even crypto. I'm a big fan of crypto, but everybody people don't necessarily realize the impact that that's going to have. Realize the impact that that's going to have. I mean, one of the things that has made America so great is, after World War II. One of the things that we decided was that the US dollar was going to be the world reserve currency and that's brought in like a ton of prosperity to America and every country, and so we don't really know the implications of going from the US dollar to BRICS or some of these other currencies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, like you said, it's a big deal and no one's talking about it. I mean, from what I've read, as far as Saudi Arabia going from the petrol dollar and everything that was kind of propping up our dollar for quite some time, we're already in a pretty bad situation with inflation and everything that's going on in interest rates. So it's like, oh boy, I wonder what this is going to do over the next couple of years, or even shorter, who knows?
Speaker 3:Well, it's a balance of value. I mean, if we're using other things to propagate the US dollar, which gives it its power worldwide, right, and we're taking I know it's not all of it, but the petrodollar and our influence with oil distribution or distribution to the world, essentially that does prop us up to a marginal, you know, percentage there. So taking that away or, let's say, not negotiating to move forward with it, is really more of what's going on and there's other influences around that, like you said, with BRICS and whatnot. I think that the banking is that they're trying to like, hey, let's not bring this attention forward because this is going to be impacting, is going to be impacting, you know. It's like, look, depending on what presidency we get moving forward, whether we're going to keep outsourcing everything or do anything internally right with the Alaskan pipeline and doing drilling here for a lot of different things.
Speaker 3:If we don't get that, then the consumer is not going to get a break at the pump. That's never going to happen. And you know, I think that it's strategic in that to leave this off of the mainstream stuff. And then there are a lot of important things that I mean.
Speaker 3:Look, three weeks ago or less than three weeks ago, there was a, an assassination attempt of the, you know, top candidate for the opposition side, right, you know, and it's only been three weeks and I don't see that on TV anymore. You know, like it's like an after the end, obviously, depending on what you're watching, but if you turn on the main, you know, abc, nbc, all that stuff they're not even talking about that, you know, it's like because that's the kind of time frame that we work in. I feel like now and we've seen that like accelerated over the last few years that if something crazy happens which I would say that that was one of the most historic crazy things that has happened in the United States since the, you know the attempt on Reagan essentially like like we're not talking about that, so it doesn't.
Speaker 3:it doesn't surprise me ever when you hear like, oh hey, we lost the contract with the petrodollar for Saudi Arabia, and everyone's like, eh, anyway, you know. But then. But then, three years from now, when gas is $7.50 or $8 or $9 a gallon, and everyone's like, oh my gosh, I can't even afford to drive to work. What happened, you know? And it's like cause people aren't paying attention. So you know, when you have, you know, individuals like yourself and you're posting these, you know current events that maybe aren't being publicized in the mainstream. It is great, you know, and hopefully people do subscribe to that and keep being informed. And I'm not saying like picking one side or the other. I think the point of it is that we kind of live in the society where all we read is headlines and we take that for what it is. You know there's no diving into it, because I remember Tim the other night when he sent me like dude the petrodollar and I was like I thought that was been in the works for the last couple months, like they've been fighting it back and forth and, dude, I tried to find information on it. Now I didn't spend a long time because I was at home, my kids were running around all crazy and that, but, but it's just an example of like there are so many working things around us that would behoove ourselves to be knowledgeable and it seems like everything right now is against getting that knowledge out there. Unless you, like, are more of I, you know, I don't know what to say an outlier, but like having that idea that doesn't just, hey, do what you're told, kind of thing. You know it's put, it's basically keeping us in a box and then, for some reason, everyone's surprised when we have these massive changes and it's unfortunate, you know, and there's so many examples of it.
Speaker 3:I mean, look at, look, the assassination attempt on trump. You know, if you have been reading about that, you'll know in the last week there's a lot of things that have come out where you're like, you know, lone gunman didn't act alone, was there multiple shooters? How many people are influenced on it? You know, like the things that you would think that are a massive, important security issues and we're kind of like, oh, look, the olympics, they made them, they made them swim in dirty water, or hey, this trans person. I keep bringing that up because that just happened. It blows my mind that they're allowed that to occur. But anyway, sorry, I don't know why I was ranting about that. No, you're good.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it's important again of like what you're doing, gentry. You know your platform, what you post, not being afraid to post, not worrying about. It seems to me like you're not worried about what people think and I do like that. You leave the comments there. It seems like you leave the negative comments right, people that are going to hate on you or say crazy stuff, because that is really you start. You can kind of see like a melting pot Look when you put something up or other things that I think are interesting, the first thing I do is comments. What are people saying? What is going on? Who's going crazy? Who's actually thinking logically? And it blows my mind how some people, it seems like, don't think for themselves, don't want to do research, don't want to find out for themselves what's happening in our country, what's important, what's the lies that are being told. And that's why I think it's interesting where for you, when you I guess what year would you say your first social media? Was it TikTok or Instagram? Was that during COVID that it got? Yeah?
Speaker 2:So my I've had a couple deleted in 20 and 21. Um I so here's something really funny I actually accidentally went viral, um on on Trump stuff. So I I was living in Seattle at the time. That's where I'm from. I live in Charlotte now Charlotte, north Carolina. Um, and I was trying to like so this is actually a funny story.
Speaker 2:So I had I'd gotten an audition to go on the Bachelor, I'd gotten one to go on Love is Blind. So I was like I was trying to go like the, the dating dating show before COVID. And so I was like a manager for influencers, I helped consult small business, so I knew social media a little bit. And then I accidentally went viral for a Trump video and it was really lazy video. I was just like I was watching all this stuff unfold with George Floyd and COVID and I was like COVID's stupid. I don't know why we're all freaking out about it. It's not that bad, I got it, it was, it was. It wasn't like it sucked, but it I survived. And so I put up this video and I was like hey guys, I'm a Trump supporter in Seattle who's with me. And that thing ended up going viral thousands of hate comments and then thousands of supportive comments too, and I started to gain a following and started posting more.
Speaker 2:I'd grown up conservative. I'd grown up Christian, I was homeschooled, grew up in the church, so I'd always kind of known that I was conservative but I didn't really know why. And then the last four years have really been like a dive into like politics, political science, theology, like the whole nine yards so that I can actually back up what I'm actually saying. But yeah, I've had several accounts deleted. I think I can go back to my screenshots and look, but yeah, that's super interesting.
Speaker 1:So it's never really happened to me. I don't think it's happened to Jordan. So one night you go to bed, you have your social media and then you wake up and you go to log in and you can't log. Is it like you can't log in? There's nothing there.
Speaker 2:And then there's this thing that pops up and says we've removed your account for X, y, z, stupid reason, and then you just can't get back in.
Speaker 1:And you just got to make a new one. Yeah, oh, we lost Jordan, sorry, no, there you are. Are you guys getting feedback by any chance? A little bit, is it from my? It might be you, jordan, it's all right. It might be you, jordan, it's all right. It might be, because the other speaker is probably too.
Speaker 3:It might be echoing or something like that, it's okay.
Speaker 1:I love the technical difficulties. Well, it's interesting, right, because I grew up that way too, gentry. I grew up in a very strict Christian home and I tell everybody here I'm a very strict Christian home and, um, you know I'm I tell everybody here I'm a prodigal son. I walked away from my faith for quite some time, uh, and lived a very, very wild, and for me, it was just coming into a realization. Like yo, there ain't nothing out there. This is crazy. Like my, my life is getting worse and I don't want to do this anymore. Not only that, but it brought a lot of hope, right, and I had to learn that it wasn't about religion and doing these. Just wake up. And you got to go to church on Wednesday night and then Sunday morning. Once I realized it was a personal relationship, it just changed a lot of my life. But it brought a lot more meaning into my decision making as well, and that also includes politics, right? What's going to align with what I believe and what I know my faith is and what the Bible says?
Speaker 1:And the Bible is probably one of the most controversial books out there and people don't like it. Example look at the opening of the 2024 Olympics. What the heck is going on. That was absolutely wild. I couldn't believe it. I was watching and I remember thinking, like you know, one thing I know the Bible does is God will not be mocked and that's a dangerous place to start playing around in. And it was really shocking to see that last supper table he had that huge, overweight woman who I guess is supposed to represent Jesus. I don't even know, but there's just a lot going on. That was like yo, like everything is so blatant now.
Speaker 1:No one's trying to hide it and then it's like it's acceptable, and then everyone has this argument Well, you know Jesus, when he was on earth he hung out with sinners and this, and that I'm like, yeah, of course he did. He hung out with sinners and this and that I'm like, yeah, of course he did, but he didn't like condone what they were doing and hung out with them to change them. You know what I'm saying. Like I don't judge anybody. I'm the last person here on this earth to answer that should be judging anyone and some of my good friends. I have family members who are lesbian and are gay and they're some of my closest friends.
Speaker 1:But to push things on people like that, you know, I always say, like I don't care what you do, you can be transsexual, you can do whatever you want. But like, how much do I got to play along? How much does my family have to play along and be forced into certain things? My, my wife, is pregnant now. We're having a daughter and there's certain things now in the schools that are being taught. I'm like in California, I'm like I don't, I, we might have to put her in a private school. I don't agree with that. Like, why can't kids be kids. Why are we forcing sexuality on them at such a young age? We're taking away their innocence.
Speaker 3:Let them be who they're going to be, you know so to see what was happening in the Olympics, man, and just blatantly in your face and it's like, everyone's like, whatever it's, it's a wild time to be alive right now do you feel that, like a lot of things that have, let's say, the last six, seven years, a lot of things have become very important, that or at least displayed as being very important, especially with, like, the lgbt trans community, like has kind of taken this forefront? Do you think that a little bit of that is maybe because, like, it's almost like a low-hanging fruit item as far as politically, because it's one of those things where you can like, hey, you should be able to do whatever you want. It's very easy to say, hey, we believe in freedom, you should be able to do what you want. It's very easy to say, hey, we believe in freedom, you should be able to do what you want. Right, so, like most people that don't have vested interests or maybe aren't even a part of these communities, they can sit back and go well, yeah, that's OK.
Speaker 3:And then once that kind of gets perpetuated into the you know people running like basically politicking, you know that's where you started to see like a little bit of this, like I mean, cause, look at the end of the day, I do think, like, as an adult, you should be able to do what you want to do, as long as you're not harming anyone around you. You know, and I, it's very simple, you know now I'm not saying no, I'll stick by that, actually Like. But we're, you know, obviously getting involved with the kids and the grooming and all this kind of stuff. I'm completely against all that. But what I found to be interesting is like, not that long ago, trans.
Speaker 3:The more associative medical term would have been gender dysphoria and there was like hey, look and I'm not saying that we, we shouldn't like there should be help for people that are having issues with that, and somewhere along the lines it went from that to it's, you know, be yourself in that way and be beautiful and brave, and all this kind of stuff and how that parlayed into more and more stuff with kids. You know, we kind of we got a little bit of a snapshot over the last few years of that movement and it's like, you know, not not saying that things are certain aspects of stuff that aren't important, but like to me I'm like how did that even gain ground other than the only like feasible thing I could think of is that politicians and people at the top figured out how to segment feelings and by that translates to being able to move money. And I think that that's where you know it's like basically saying like if you had to run as a, you know as a class president when you're in elementary school and you're like hey, if you vote for me, I'm gonna put you who and all the water fountains. We don't have to drink water anymore. You know, it sounds very simple. People are gonna be like hell, yeah, I love you, who.
Speaker 3:It's amazing, you know, not really looking at what I represent as a kid, not knowing anything else other than people like you, who you know, and I feel like there's a lot of that like similar, like. Obviously that's very basic, but the similarities and what becomes more important at the time that we've seen, especially with like the the left, if you say or any kind of progressive movement people, is that they find these things that are a little bit untouched and they exploit them and utilize that as like look at me, I'm virtuous, I believe in. Everyone has a thing. And you're like, yeah, except you're part of making bills that have associated medical insurance coverages that now your donors are getting back end paid, you know, for certain things that never existed before this time and now all of a sudden it's a super important thing and now it's affecting not just the individual. Is like, hey, if you want to tuck your sack back and throw some rouge on and paint the town red, cool man.
Speaker 3:But I don't have to like be like, hey, I'm so proud of you. Nor do I think that, hey, my kid could potentially be influenced by this right. So we kind of live in that like. That's why like I always kind of come back to you know what started it. Why was it that way? Why, all of a sudden, now more than ever in history, this is an important subject matter that people are even voting on, you know, and I think it's because of that, I think it's because it's it's like a generalized low hanging fruit issue I use that term as in it's easy to grab right, you know, and anyway.
Speaker 2:So. So my thoughts on this is it's really easy to divide people kind of like what you were suggesting, into like identity politics, right. So what? What the left has done really, really well is first they they say, oh, this group is persecuted, right, and then they want us to, and then they want us to tolerate, and then they want us to accept, and now they're forcing us to participate, right. So we've gone from persecute tolerate, acceptance, right, where now everyone's like oh, like everyone's beautiful, everyone's all this kind of stuff. And I mean that happens with the LGBTQIA plus, plus Q2A, however many things there are that happen with really the fat phobia community Right. There's like all this like what's it called Fat acceptance now, where we're just accepting the fact that you have eaten yourself into oblivion and like it's, it's horrible, it's awful, you need help, like we're, like you're very sick. But now we're getting into the, the part of history where we have to participate, and that's where the Olympic games ceremony comes in, where we're forced to watch it, and not only is it a representation of the trans agenda, but it's also like a slap in the face to all Christians and it's insane.
Speaker 2:It's also happening in schools in California and in Washington, I think Chicago too there's a ton of states now where, like teachers somehow think they have authority to hide stuff from their parents and it doesn't matter if it's on LGBTQ or insert whatever topic there. Like teachers don't, like the government doesn't have authority to hide stuff from from parents because in a way, in a very large way, they're taking, um, they're taking control of the kids and they're saying, oh, like your, your parents don't know anything, right, so we're the experts, so we're going to do this and your parents may not get it and all this kind of stuff. And kids are so impressionable, they're learning stuff as it comes. They don't unless you have like a really smart kid and you just like instilled like discernment and wisdom, which is really hard to do, I think, because I didn't learn wisdom until I was like 28. My parents are fantastic, yeah, but like kids are like so impressionable and learning stuff like as it goes, and so like they're going to take most things as truth because someone older and taller and, you know, more powerful than them are telling them the truth. It's just, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2:And, um, I, I kind of disagree with you, jordan, a little bit on the you know, live and let live, because with the lgbtq plus community they can't reproduce at all. And so in a lot of ways and we're we're seeing this and it's not, it's not covert right now, it's it's overt they have to recruit and it's like really, really disgusting and that's just in like the last and that's just in like the last seven, eight, nine years. If you go back to, if you go back before, then you're in and you talk to some people in the homosexual community, just gay or lesbian. We're not going to add any other letters. There's a ton of stories about being groomed, really, really by older men, and you know it's like live and let live, but then you're doing this. It's, it's really strange. The whole, the whole LGBTQ plus community was built off of the idea of pedophilia Wow. And there's a whole bunch of like sexual revolution stuff going back to the 50s and 60s.
Speaker 3:And to make, just to just to clarify if my, if the way I describe that was more of a live and let live, I think it's on the parameters of not invoking potential issues to yourself and or your family because I did and I and I.
Speaker 3:I know what you're talking about and I know that that's always a lot of the when you have like LGBT protection style, like, especially, there was oh my gosh, I forgot it was like an assembly meeting where they were talking about something with protection of the kids, but they had some activists from those groups that were opposing of it because of the past practice is how they were stating it of older men, like because their first experiences in a gay relationship was when they were younger, so they would have been essentially like under the age of 18, right, and then that's this, like you know, accepted practice to a certain extent within that community. Now, I don't think that that's appropriate because it doesn't work along any lines and an adult is an adult and a kid is a kid period to me. So, and I understand what you're saying. So I just wanted to clarify. I don't mean live and not live like, yeah, you can go ahead and practice whatever you think is appropriate, because on the end of that meaning, if there's anything that involves children and or outside of your own personal space, I'm not for that either, because that's, in fact, a lot of things that are that are problematic as far as, like, grooming standards and things like under those, uh, yeah, those issues.
Speaker 3:So no, and I and I hear what you're saying I wish I could, um, I wish I could remember what the assembly meeting was about, because the premise was talking about like public school safety and basically being able to talk to parents, and they had like activists saying like, oh, because it's either racist or it's, you know, gender bias or sexuality issues and all that stuff, and it's like, no, the principle is that the families should be informed of what their students are doing, regardless of their association.
Speaker 3:And I mean, you know, I can get into how ridiculous I think when kids state things, but I don't want to drown out because I feel like that's talked about that a lot on the on the shows here. But, um, you know, and that is the, that's the hard part, right, because there's like this constant line in the sand of like, you know, if I say, oh, you can do whatever you want, as long as're saving yourself, that literally means you not impacting other people, you know, and that. And that doesn't really follow in line with, I feel like, as far as what is being projected as the community standard when it comes to involvement with minors and stuff with that.
Speaker 2:So my, my thought process on the live and let live is it's a little bit naive because we are, we would be ignoring the existence of evil, right. So evil doesn't stop itself, so it must be stopped. I think one of the reasons why we're in such a terrible spot as a nation is because a lot of people adopted the live and let live Right. So one of the like I get asked this all the time like, oh, you're just spreading hate on social media, you're part of the problem, you're this, you're that, and I'm like, I'm actually part of the solution.
Speaker 2:Like, I don't think you understand that if I didn't enter the fight and a lot of like, the, the, the peers that I run with didn't enter the fight, social media would be, would would be, would be rampant with this like woke leftist, marxist ideology, and it would go unchecked. It would totally go unchecked. And so, like my, my entering into this battle on accident, but I've taken, like, I've taken full responsibility, uh, for really mistakes that, um, and problems that I didn't create. But I, I have to, I have to step up and do it because, um, we're just saying like, live and let live, like, oh, you, you go, do you?
Speaker 2:I'm going to do me Like voting doesn't matter, because whatever god's in control and I think I don't know I've got so many thoughts on that, on god's sovereignty versus our will it's uh yeah I hear that a lot.
Speaker 1:I hear that a lot from a lot of um boomers. Uh, you know, it's like god's in control, like yeah, but you can still make decisions, you can still vote. And I want to say the importance of voting Because I hear that a lot here in California with friends who are more right-wing right. Well, why vote? It doesn't even matter, california's always going to be Democrat. I'm like, no, you need to vote, you need to put your vote in. You need to go to the polling booths.
Speaker 1:I mean, I grew up in a military home and why I'm so big on that is because I saw what my dad has been through and what his special forces teams went through and the men that he lost. And he was in Vietnam. I mean, he had a 22 plus career as a Green Beret, you know, and the price of freedom and what this country was bought on and the blood that was shed so that we can be here and that people can worship Satan or be Christian or be atheist, or be trans, be lesbian or gay. That all was fought so hard for for people to have the right to live this way. So, yes, you know what. Get out and vote. You need to vote.
Speaker 1:Your voice needs to be heard, you need to say what you believe in and I think with the more people that start standing up kind of like you and others and I would say even myself at times opposing what we believe and who we're voting for, that has influence. I always say there's always those closet hiders, you know, the ones that kind of hide in the shadows. They're like I don't know, you know, but they're going to vote, you know they're going to vote for Trump or whatever. You know. It's like don't be afraid to say what you're going to vote for, man. I mean, you have a right to say that, you know.
Speaker 2:So girls are posting their OnlyFans link shamelessly, but full-blown men aren't. They don't have the balls, the stones, to post that they're voting for Trump. That's what's wrong with America right now is that dudes are weak. They're like oh, I don't, you know, I don't want to. You know, lose friends or even lose a job or whatever the job one kind of makes sense, but also not really, because you could be the first and it could just start a whole wave of people going in that direction.
Speaker 2:Here's a perfect example Milk Boys, kyle Forgeard, the Full Send podcast. They had Trump on the Full Send podcast I think a year ago or two years ago, and now Trump is going on Logan Paul's podcast. He's going on a ton of other stuff. Like there's so many celebrities and content creators, youtubers that are standing up and I don't think full send was necessarily like the first, but they were like a big part of that momentum shift. It's like, oh, actually we can make it cool to support trump, we can make it a thing now and and so like, just be first, just have some stones and go for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:I think that that's, it's a, it's a reflection of the time period that we're in. You know, I mean, I feel like, yeah, growing some stones is a is a good way to put it. And you know, I think that the more excuse me the more times people speak out and like you shouldn't, you know, like look, if you're afraid to like tell people that you work with or you're around, like you have a conservative value system, like that's the scary thing to let go.
Speaker 3:You know, like that shouldn't be a problem and honestly like, and if you disagree, like that's fine too. You know, but like, don't be afraid to do it, don't get put in a box, don't get told what to do If you don't believe in it or you think it's wrong. Like, stand up and I agree with you, like, and that's, it's something that I feel it's like. You know, like, let's say, post-world War II, right, everyone's like patriotic and you know all about work. You know, and I'm sure there's plenty of examples I'm just giving a generalization of the time period and I wasn't alive at that time so I didn't get to experience that but I feel like I grew up around a family that was very much that way and like, doing your civic duty, standing up for what is right. You know, like, don't be afraid to like, if something's wrong, call for what it is or try to intervene and stop it Right. That was kind of like the moral foundation I feel like I had. And I feel like, as I've gotten older, you know, and I even like saying like I'm not trying to backtrack what I was saying about. Like you know, you could do what you want to do. You know, I mean, I feel like, to a certain extent, that is part of the freedom in this country, but I also feel like we have civic duty and we have to. You know, I don't know, like, as a man, like I feel, like I look, I mean, should I dedicated my life's work to helping people? You know what I so like, at the end of the day, you know whether that means, politically, I agree with you or disagree, like that shouldn't be a problem If I see you do something, or vice versa, that's wrong.
Speaker 3:To stand up and say something, you know, and that goes across the board, and there's a bunch. You know, I just think, like we're on that pendulum, swift. You know the saying is like hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times create weak men. Like I think we're in that good times, weak men scenario right now, and it doesn't mean that it can't get better. You know, I don't want to go full doom and gloom on everything, because it can just be something as simple as people standing up for what they believe in, you know, and if that moral foundation is like a foundation of family, god and country. I don't think standing up in that way is problematic, truly, you know, now people will say like, oh, that's a you know triggering words, or you can call what you want to call it.
Speaker 3:I think it's a fundamental moral foundation that's led us to be in one of the greatest countries that have ever existed, and I think that continuing that trend will only put us in a better position moving forward, even though it feels right now that we swayed a little bit, or a lot of it, depending on who you're asking.
Speaker 2:I think it really started when everyone decided to be politically correct, but there was only a few of us that were actually politicians, so we didn't actually have to be politically correct, like, we could have just said whatever we wanted, guys. We could have used the word retarded, we could have kept using the word fag.
Speaker 2:We could have we could have done it all Like we weren't politicians back then we could have done it, but going, going back to voting. So I'm from Washington state, which is one of the probably most depressing states politically. It's a gorgeous state, it's an outdoor man's dream. But the conservatives in that state, they have bought the lie that their vote doesn't matter and so they don't vote. But I looked at the numbers and if, if and this is a pipe dream. So you know it's really hard to get 100 percent participation. But if 100 percent of people voted it would be way closer than people thought. And I bet you that trend is the same in Oregon, california, new York not Chicago, but Illinois, some of these like really really Colorado. I bet to some of these really really blue states where if we got more participation it would be a lot closer than people thought.
Speaker 2:There was a. There was a video I saw recently that described what could happen if we got rid of the electoral college, and it wasn't necessarily that the US would just go blue because there's not more Democrats than there are Republicans. In fact it's very even if you look at the registration, in fact, the growing number of people right now is independents. I think there's like 20 to 30 percent independents, depending on what stat you look at, and so, like, the country is coming more towards the middle than you think. But if we did and I'm not saying I want this, I'm saying it was kind of a fun exercise to think about but if we did go to just a popular vote, that means everyone vote actually does matter, right. And so, instead of just going to swing states, right, I think Trump in 2020, I think he went to Wisconsin like 20 times in a month in October Like I was just like crushing, he's trying to win that state at all costs.
Speaker 2:But if, if, like there was a chance to pick up a ton of votes in Seattle or LA or, you know, chicago or whatever he, he would go there and every vote would matter and I feel like there would be more of a turnout because, like right now, especially in California, oregon, washington, like the West Coast, like it makes sense why people would think that your vote doesn't matter, right, like I understand the process.
Speaker 2:But then if you extrapolate that out to you know, tens or hundreds of thousands of people and they all think that their vote doesn't matter, then it really doesn't matter. But if we can figure out how to switch that mindset of you. Know, I'm going to write on a piece of paper and submit it. It's not that hard, right? It's not like we're asking you to, like, engage in trance warfare or storm Normandy beach or, you know, go into fricking Baghdad and go house to house. We're asking you to fill out a piece of paper, right, that's it's. I feel like it's not that hard. And so people like people waste like four to five hours a day on Netflix. They can waste, you know, an hour to go to the voting booth and go vote and if we get a lot of participation, it can change the country.
Speaker 2:Here's here's a really good example the. The Arizona primary just ended and for primary votes for Senate, carrie Lake was running. She won the primary but second place was Sheriff Lamb and combined they got about 580,000 votes. On the Democratic side they got 430 something thousand showed greater numbers for Republicans than Democrats, which is amazing. There's a whole bunch of get out the vote initiatives that are happening. Turning Point Action has one. Send the Vote is another one to swamp the vote. There's a ton of these out there.
Speaker 2:But the point is is that if, like these, these voter turnout initiatives actually work really well and if we just kind of go based on the trends, kerry Lake is most likely going to win Arizona in November, which would be a huge win If we picked up a seat in the House. That would be unbelievable, and that is actually happening all over the country in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin, in Michigan. There's even stuff happening in Washington state that I know of just because I'm from there. So I'm still tied to the comms. But your vote matters and even if you're going to lose, fill out the piece of paper and go to the polls. Yeah, yeah, mail it in vote. On day vote, early absentee ballot, whatever it is, just make sure you get it. The Democrats and I'm sorry to make this like super political, but I'm just the the the Democrats religion is voting and they're doing their religion better than the the Democrats' religion is voting and they're doing their religion better than the right.
Speaker 1:That's the best way I've ever heard that put. Actually, it really is.
Speaker 3:It really is. How do we reach this time period where you don't even have to show an ID to vote? I mean, you can't even buy a six-pack of beer without showing your ID. But you can help pass.
Speaker 2:Buy a six pack of beer without showing your ID, you know. But you can help us about that changes everything. You can't buy beer, alcohol, you can't buy Zins. You can't buy Zins without an ID. You can't get a job, you can't get an airplane, you can't do any of this stuff Like it's all it's but it's all racist, you guys. It's racist now to get a job Apparently. Oh, that's right, my bad, damn this dude.
Speaker 1:It's almost, you know it's. You know, when I sit back and try to. You know, one thing we learn in working in the fire service, right, is when we go on scene to help people, whether it's a fire or a big car accident or something major going on, you know you have to try and look at things, especially when you're in a leadership position, as, say, a company officer which is a captain, you're over that fire engine, the crew, right, you're trying to look at it from like the 30,000 foot level, right, instead of the, you know, the 10 foot level, where you know you're just moth to flame, fighting fire. You're trying to see everything that's going on around you, what's happened, what's the bigger picture, what's the potential for this incident to get worse? Right, and that's how I've started, kind of looking at our country, I'm like let me take a step back here and see what's going on. And when you open that lens, you kind of start looking and you're like yo is like bad, good and good, bad. Now I'm kind of tripping here Like things have changed so much. But, with that being said, it seems like and maybe I'm wrong, gentry, but it seems like there's kind of a shift coming.
Speaker 1:I, you know, I'm mixed. I'm African-American and white, my dad's white, mom's African-American. And I will say that a lot of the family that I know and I've talked to that are African-American historically just voted Democrat, because that's what you do, that's what we do as African-Americans you vote Democrat, and this is the first time I think I've ever heard them say I'm voting for Trump. I was like wait, what? What's happening here? Are you guys serious? Because before it was like right, what's happening here? Are you guys serious? Because before it was like right, it's like you said Trump is Hitler, all this crazy stuff, he's racist.
Speaker 1:And now there's just like it's almost like it's gotten a little bit so out of hand where people are like, hey, we need to reel this back in a little bit, just a little bit. And you're looking at his poll numbers when Sleepy Joe was still running for president. It's like yo, this guy's, he's going to win. Dude, this is, this is ridiculous, right. And then, of course, they forced Kamala on us and now like I don't know, gentry, you're, you're, you're very well versed in politics, more than I am. But some of these polls that I'm seeing, now that Harris is now coming up and pretty close to Trump. I'm like how she didn't even get 1% of the vote when she was going for president. I mean, what's her famous saying Unburden what has been. I think I saw like a four minute video of that same line spoken in the last three years, over and over, in every single speech. It's wild dude single speech.
Speaker 2:It's wild dude. So kamala harris is an enigma that I don't fully understand why she's so popular. I know that she is and I can see the path right. Yeah, uh, two weeks ago she was rated one of the worst vice presidents of all time and now she's polling better than trump, like it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:The other thing which is really interesting hear me on this when she says be unburdened by what has been, it sounds like word salad, it sounds like she's retarded, but it's actually a Marxist dog wrestle, because what she's saying is that she doesn't want to be burdened by what has been America. And I'm not trying to come up with a conspiracy theory. I'm going off of what James Lindsay is saying. I don't know if you guys follow James, but he's a fantastic follow on Twitter, one of the smartest people when it comes to like the whole Marxist movement. He's saying that that's like a Marxist dog whistle and if you actually look at some of the stuff that she wants to do, like take away all guns, she wants to let everyone in the country and give them a citizenship, which is insane. She's essentially co-signed all of Joe Biden's policies, which is nuts.
Speaker 2:And there's, there's, it's all media hype, it's all skewed polls. To be honest, I even saw some of the data on some of the polls and they pulled. I think it was like 800 people on on the left and 500 people on the right, and then like 300 people in the middle and it was pretty even as far as the results go. But, like, if you pull more people on on the left, you're going to get a skewed poll. Like, if I go post it on my Instagram, are you voting for Trump or Kamala? I'm going to get a hundred percent for Trump and I'm like oh, look, it's all this, all, so like that that stuff like doesn't, doesn't matter, she's polling worse, with some of the people who pulled really well for jordan, biden, like the black community and hispanics and all this kind of stuff, and it's all skewed polls because they're not actually comparing it to 2020. They're just showing the polls and saying, oh, she's better than trump on these things. It's like, yeah, but she's like she's actually going downhill. So it's. It's really interesting.
Speaker 2:She also has no plan for us. None at all. No, absolutely not. In fact, this is really interesting. Most people don't go to political websites to see what people are saying Right, they, they just like go other political websites to see what people are saying. They just go listen to the interviews and stuff like that. Trump, on his website, has a lot of plans. I think if he gets a really good administration he'll be able to execute a lot of it, because that's what he did in his last administration. There was some stuff that he couldn't do because Schumer and Nancy Pelosi were being butts, but on her website there's no policies. It's donation links and job openings, that's it.
Speaker 3:Are you surprised? Though? I'm not surprised at that at all I feel like her slogan could be fast forward.
Speaker 2:Sorry, joe Biden had policies on his website. It more like trump sucks.
Speaker 3:that's what his policy was, but it was still on his website it was like, everything that has been done, we're just going to do the opposite. July 2020, yeah, yeah, joe biden. 2020 it's, it's the. It's so crazy, you know, because I mean like and I don't, you know, I don't know if you guys want to go into that, but like, basically we just watched like a low grade coup take place and a absolutely undemocratic process of electing you know and again as the VP. Like it is what it is, but like they didn't throw any other candidates, like they didn't throw any other candidates.
Speaker 3:They just everyone called for Joe to step down and then all of a sudden she's the one and we can get into the conspiracy of all all that. You know how he grew like eight inches overnight after COVID and all that fun stuff, but you know, I just, I just yeah, it's the weirdest video ever and I tried to like want to believe that it was perspective differences. I'm like no dude. He's like six inches taller than her and she's wearing heels and he has no gimp when he walks. That's not him, but anyway, uh jim carrey dude, this ain't jim carrey, you never know, you never know.
Speaker 3:I look at this point I wouldn't be shocked, but you know the whole thing with, like her pulling high and all that stuff. It's like the day she announced that she was going to do it, she got like eighty two million dollars which they basically transfer the PAC funding over from Joe Biden's name to hers. But everything was look at how much money she raised in less than 24 hours.
Speaker 3:It's like come on, you know, ok, like at some point this silliness has to stop. But then it's like you're asking a question to a system that is already propagated by absolute silliness, in my opinion, you know. So, you know, I'm not surprised at it. I'm not surprised if she doesn't answer one question. Logically, I'm not surprised if there's no game plan other than what they'll probably do with the way things have been going over the last week and a half. I wouldn't be surprised if they put out something that said we're just going to do everything opposite of the project 2025 says, because that seems to be such a hot button topic with you know, like, ooh, they're going to do all this stuff, you know, and which is not even what's endorsed by Trump or on his website as far as plans. So I'm not even giving credit to any of that, you know. And they're like, well, 140 people that worked under the Trump administration may have been associated with the think tank, right from Heritage Group, and it's like, yeah, but that's like saying that when the Green New Deal came out, everyone that worked on that was going to absolutely push everything on the Green New Deal, you know, I mean. So it's like it's semantics of scare tactics and that's pretty much all they have. You know they have that and they have, look, we have this half and half female candidate, you know who. All in all honesty, you know it's like, look, whatever nationality is, that's great, right. It's ironic that you never heard about her being black up until four years ago, but, you know, ironic nonetheless, you know.
Speaker 3:And as for like, you know tim, you're talking about like with african-american community, there has been a lot of stuff that I've seen, like you know, just posts and things, just, you know, like little instances of like, hey, we're talking about it, you know, and it was kind of just like it was. It was interesting seeing the perspective of, even though maybe have been a lifelong Democrat, you're like, dude, I'm not voting for that lady, you know. Not to mention like the same person who, like, got hyped up for incarcerating thousands of people on bullshit marijuana policy charges, was also talking about smoking and listening to Dr Dre and Tupac back in the day. You know what I mean. So it's like you have just like, if hypocrite was a face, you have someone that falls in suit in that very well, and I hope my hope is is that the American people can see past that, you know, and it's going to come at people like you, gentry, posting stuff up that the mainstream media is not going to post and having the opportunity to run shit in the comment section, which I love. I hear you said that earlier tim. I love reading it because it's like and I used to like I wouldn't call myself a troll, but I used to like try to like ask questions that I thought were like well, you're not answering, you're not, you know, you're making a blanket statement.
Speaker 3:How do you really feel about it? I'm trying to be creative in that way and obviously you run into people that just are like, well, you're a racist, I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm racist. Okay, you know. Like, come on, like this is like we're childish at this point. But you know, I think that moving forward is like eventually, there's going to be enough just crazy crap out there that people are just gonna be like look, whether you like trump or you don't, you're. We got to change the trajectory of where this is going, and I think that, in my opinion, that's the only suitable choice to, if you don't like how things have been going, that'll be the first move to changing it up. And or you know, at least in your general surroundings, or if you care about the country, where the country's leading yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember my dad always telling me when I was younger when you vote, are you better off now than you were four years ago? It's simple, right, and I've thrown it out there a few times and people get. You'd be surprised at responses Well, this and this is racist. That's not what I asked. Are you better off now than you were four years ago? You can't tell me in this, the way, in the state our country is in right now, that our country as a whole is better off. I mean, dude, I have a Chevy Express van that I drive, I throw my surfboards in there 30 gallon tank. It costs me almost $200 to fill that thing up $200. My wife drives a Ford Expedition 30 gallon tank. Same thing. Dude, it's wild.
Speaker 1:Groceries are going up. You're seeing people struggling and it's like yo, we're crushing the middle and lower classes here. Is anybody going to come in here and fight for us? Save the day? What is going on here? Because it feels like it's going to eventually be. You're going to have the haves and the have-nots. There's going to be no middle class. It's going to be wiped out. It's like what, what is going on here? That's why I always say I'm looking from this view like something's not adding up here. Man, like how can you go out here and blatantly lie and say bidenomics is the best thing that's ever happened to this country?
Speaker 3:I would like someone to just explain what Bidenomics is, because you can't. There's nothing that explains it. It was a rhetorical statement, but you hear that term. Bidenomics it's like dude, it's like separation of power. Basically, you're like push the have and the have nots in a further separate direction, direction wipe out the middle class, because there's going to be a few that stick to the top and the rest are going to follow the bottom, you know, and but I think that that's like an agenda thing, though that's what I, you know.
Speaker 3:I think that we're getting pushed in that way on purpose, because we want an expansion of government, more government control and all that kind of stuff, which I don't want to get conspiracy stuff, know, but like that's what I truly believe is happening and we're kind of seeing it play out. But maybe, going back to what you said earlier about, you know, at the end of the day, a lot of times it is like good versus evil and you know, we kind of see that in many facets, you know, and I think government control has been one of them, and it doesn't mean that all of it's bad, it just means there's a lot of parts of it that need to be changed, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:Totally, and I posted about this when it happened. But there was a really big Supreme Court ruling that trended for a few days. I wish people would dig into it a little bit more, but it was the Chevron doctrine, the Chevron deference, that got overturned. That is a really big thing. So essentially what that said is that the Chevron doctrine was in place for like 40, 50 years and essentially what it said is if Congress passed a law that was vague, ambiguous which most laws are right If there was a three-letter agency that had jurisdiction over that, they were able to interpret and enforce the law. So now that the Chevron deference has been overturned, what that means is that the power goes back to Congress and it doesn't. It's not held in the EPA, tsa, irs, all this kind of stuff, and so nothing has really happened with it yet.
Speaker 2:But that government control that you're talking about just went back to Congress, which is a good thing, because now those people will supposedly they're supposed to be our representatives and we have election coming up, so we can actually vote in the people that we want to be in there to interpret and enforce, you know, the laws. So, like the, the reason why this even got brought up is because there was a? Uh, there was fishing boats, and I think it was either Alaska or California, but they were having to, um, pay a thousand dollars to have someone from the EPA on their boat every day to make sure that they were up to par, and they were like we can't really afford to do this. That's a ridiculous ask. Why is this a thing? Why do you have the authority to do this? And then they just brought it up to the Supreme Court, and so now a lot of these organizations, these three-letter orgs, don't have the power that they used to have, which is honestly unbelievable.
Speaker 1:That's interesting. I honestly didn't realize. I didn't know that it went back to Congress. I mean. I remember like kind of hearing about that and reading and seeing some clips on that, but I didn't know that, I did not know that.
Speaker 3:How long ago was this really?
Speaker 2:That's like a month ago, so it was. It was the same day that Trump got off on one of his cases, so that's probably why it got pushed down to the bottom. Plus, yeah, the left is screaming about it, saying oh, like you know, now the environment's in trouble and it's like, no, not really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no dude. Hey, real quick, gentry, are you using your um? You use your computer, right, gentry? Let's try. I'm gonna try something. Can you turn the volume down that? That might be what that feedback is.
Speaker 2:Just a little bit yeah, let me, let me put in my airpods, here see if that works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I can get uh, sorry about that man.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's good, I'll just I'll let you be the audio engineer, yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause, like we're talking, I'm like, dude, where is this feedback coming from? I'm looking at all my settings. I'm like what in the world? Um, no, dude, I, you know, that's why I like bringing. We like bringing people on here, gentry, such as yourself, because to me, you know, that's why I like bringing. We like bringing people on here, gentry, such as yourself, because to me, you know, it is the everyday person that can make such a huge difference, and that's why I like celebrating everyday people. Right, we don't need to look. You can look to sports figures or politicians. No-transcript.
Speaker 2:Um, I have a little media company called breakaway USA. Um, I haven't done a lot with it recently. Um, I'm letting the guys kind of run it, but I think they're doing a pretty good job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, Cause I think you didn't. You you interviewed. You were interviewing people, right? Yeah, yeah, Cause I remember I listened to one that was pretty cool, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. It might've been one of the last episodes you did, but it was somebody who used to be either trans or in the gay community.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so that was, uh, that was Enrique. Um, he's a friend from San Diego. Uh, he goes to awaken church and he was like one of the most well-known successful drag Queens in the in the San Diego area and he grew up Christian, he grew up Catholic and just went away from his faith like in a huge way and was accepted by the, the drag queen community, the gay community, and his life was super empty and just a mess really drugs, alcohol, whole bunch of random weird sex and so, um, he felt this call to God to go back to church and he stumbled into a church called the Waken church down in San Diego and instead of like pushing him away, they were like no, come in, like we, we got you. And then he, just he, he kept coming and he kept coming and he, um, like obviously they, you know, had some, some guards up because you know, you're, you're going to use the right bathroom, you're, you know, not going to be around kids, you know all this kind of stuff which makes sense because you're not going to put the congregations, you know people in danger. But they still wanted to love on him and now he's like a leader in the church and he's totally forsaken that whole lifestyle and, um, they, they, they put on plays and stuff like that. They're, they're really into the arts and so he's like the lead role on all this kind of stuff he has. Uh, um, he's got a clothing company now and like he's doing really well and it was I.
Speaker 2:I love. I love stories like that because, like a lot of times we'll, you know, christians will look at the people who are living that lifestyle and she's like, oh, they're too far gone. But there's really no one that's too far gone for god. You know, we can't necessarily like I, I feel like it. I feel like, in a lot of ways, you can't necessarily convince somebody to do something, because if you can convince them into it, then that means they can be convinced out of it. Right, it's got to be like a heart posture and something that they're like you know their hearts change on or they're really passionate about. So I, I loved, I loved doing that podcast. That was last year. I stopped doing it. I actually had an ex-girlfriend that told me to stop doing it because I was interviewing too many women, Sorry.
Speaker 3:Well, hey look, now he's an ex.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I remember listening to that and it impacted me. It was encouraging, right? Not that?
Speaker 2:I've done the things that he did.
Speaker 1:But it just shows you that the Lord can touch anyone. He can change anybody. And I believe that the more influence we have which is kind of what we're talking about, at least on this episode a lot of standing for what you believe, standing up for what's right and what you know is right, and your, your faith in your, your morals, that has an impact on people, because reality is, the more and more people that I talk to, we bring on the podcast, and I see it even when I'm working on duty as a firefighter everyone's searching, everyone's lost. Why are we on this piece of dirt floating through space and time? What am I here for? What was I, bro? I've, we did a first responders night at hope and I spoke and gave my testimony and all this stuff and it's almost like I I've told us so many times but I, I tried everything Like I did. I really went for it. I had a great time.
Speaker 1:You know I have minor success in a way, so I can have the funds to go do what I want to do. I've owned my homes and other things and cars I've always wanted and traveling, and at the end of the day I'm like this is it? Is this what everyone is talking about? I mean, dude, and I'll tell you what the whole thing of like sleeping around that just causes more drama. It's just more problems for you. I'll just bring that straight to the forefront, and it hurts people, you know.
Speaker 1:And having that true relationship with the Lord and making it, like I said, a relationship and it's between you and Him, I mean it's what changed me and it can change the hardest of hearts. It changed Enrique and to me. I'm seeing a lot more things on social media and posts. It seems like a lot more people are starting to turn towards the Lord right now, which is great, because there is just not just in our country, but it seems like the whole world is a little bit out of control, especially again after we watched the opening ceremony for the Olympics. I mean, again, I was shocked, dude. I was like I can't believe this is being shown right now. This is crazy.
Speaker 1:But you know, to have that relationship with the Lord and to see that in people like you and my other friends and Jordan, and seeing people grow and be bold, it encourages me, it makes me want to be like, hey, you know what I need? To start standing up and doing my thing, and what I want to say to people is like stand for what you believe. If there's people that are standing for the Paris Olympics and saying you know they can do what they want and show all that, it's like, well, we stand for what we believe. We need to show them. We can stand firm in our faith and, yes, we can not agree with you. We still call to love you, but we're going to tell you like that ain't right. And it's hard when you're held accountable.
Speaker 3:Nobody wants to be wrong, you know that I tell you what, if the satirical setup was towards, like, a Muslim religion, that would not have gone over very well. No, you know, and that's kind of like the double edged sword of the kind of the Christian viewpoint, right, it's like you know you're supposed to turn the other cheek or be accepting. You know there's also, I think, like you also need to stand to turn the other cheek or be accepting. You know there's also, I think, like you also need to stand up for what you believe too. You know, I know we talked a little bit about that, so I don't drone on too much, but I think, like what you're saying, sam, is like there's, there's a lot, of, a lot of change in that way that I think is being publicized in a good way. You know, as far as and then I'm not saying that you know I don't want to like tell people how to to or what to believe in, but I think that having a base in like a christian, you know, or moral, fundamental approach in religion is is a good start and not being afraid to talk about that.
Speaker 3:And I think that you know people post and like it's so random that you said that, because I've noticed, like in the past, like week, there's been like there's more things like scrolling through, like my reels and stuff of like just prayers and you know, just like reaching out to people.
Speaker 3:It's just like a lot of good stuff, you know, and I think seeing that you know kind of like energizes you, you know, and it makes you like feel like, hey, you know like there are a lot of people out there that think the same way or maybe close to and maybe you bringing something up is the little nudge they need to change their life. I mean, thanks for sharing that story about the, as you said, drag queen. Right, it was down in San Diego and now it went to a church and hopefully they're doing awesome and the church is very receptive. And just hearing things like that I think is very, you know, optimistic and you know there needs to be a lot more stuff like that and I think, now more than ever cause like I feel like you turn the television on, it's like everything's doom and gloom, everything you know, and it's like you know which I jump on that, watching it all the time.
Speaker 3:So I am not going to say that I'm like against it because it's as far as entertainment value. But at the end of the day, that entertainment value, what I perceive is that sometimes you know, like you're saying earlier, like you know just the rhetoric of saying negative things about one thing and scare tactics, and now is the next Hitler, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know this can perpetuate more situations like what we experienced a couple weeks ago. I have a different, I have a little bit different thought process on the shooting situation, but it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't take away the fact that it riles people up in the wrong way and maybe, like that big reset, whether it's finding religion or faith or whatever your personal relationship is with God, you know that can be the reset that you know can perpetuate the actual change that would benefit really everybody, you know. So I guess we're all right one day at a time, but in the moment, you know there's.
Speaker 2:So, jordan, something interesting you said is that, like you know, there's a there's this, this idea in with what Jesus said, with turning the other cheek, and it's I've I've actually looked into this a little bit and turning the other cheek actually means command respect from the person who hits you. So back in back in the Roman times, what they would do is they would hit you backhanded and that was a sign of disrespect that you were below them, all this kind of stuff. Because the Romans were kind of the on the higher end of the hierarchy because they had conquered the, you know, the Jews. But if you turn the other cheek, you had to hit him with your, with your forehand, right. So it's not necessarily like, oh, we're supposed to just lay down and take it. It's like, no, we're actually supposed to command respect from that.
Speaker 2:So there's there's so much of of Jesus's words that get just like minced and misused today. And you know we're supposed to be, you know, loving like Jesus and all this kind of stuff. But Jesus really loved the people that were like yearning for him, right, he was super kind to everyone that would go follow him around and hear him preach. But he was he was very strict and harsh with the people who didn't receive his message right. He called them brood of vipers. He called them whitewashed tombs. He told the disciples to dust the feet off of the town that they left as they didn't accept Jesus. He flipped tables in the temple, like. People are missing that side of Jesus and I think it's probably one of the biggest misses that we like as Christians, that we see we're not supposed to be weak, we're not supposed to like turn the other cheek like oh, hit me again.
Speaker 2:Right, it's more of like a try that again.
Speaker 2:Right, because we're all, we're all the same in the eyes of God, right, I'm not saying to go start a fight, but I'm saying like, know your place right, know your place there's. There's also another, another thing in Romans right, romans, I think it's Romans, six Romans one where it talks about how we're supposed to submit to the authority and you know it, taken at face value, that makes sense, like, oh, supposed to follow all the laws and do all this stuff and not put up a fight because God put them there. But I think people are missing what kind of country that we live in. Because back in the Roman times they were subjects. They had to follow the laws. To follow the laws, like if they didn't they would go to jail, and so, like the way that their structure was set up, that's just how it was.
Speaker 2:We're citizens in this country, that means co-ruler, and these politicians that we vote in they're not our rulers, they're our public servants, and so we are the rulers of the United States in a lot of ways. We elect a representative into government so that we can have someone that is going to be our voice, but we don't elect rulers. So, to anybody listening, please, please go understand the difference between a subject, which is what they were in the Bible and a citizen, which is what we are today.
Speaker 3:That's a really good point, and I'm glad you said that about the term the other cheek, because I feel like I've used that a couple times over the years in reference to making it more sounding submissive versus what know what. What's your explanation of what that means, which is great because, like you know, I don't know, I don't, I don't like, anyway, I don't want to get into that, but it's a good, it's, let's get into it no, no what I'm saying is that, like you know, like I don't know, like I I don't, I don't like feeling like I get.
Speaker 3:You know, you get pushed around like in certain ways, where it's like, oh, you can't talk about this, or oh, because of this, you know, and it's just like you know, screw off.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Like this is what I feel like, and if I'm passionate about it, like again, like I'm not gonna beat my sense into you, but I definitely I'm not gonna back down off of how I feel, you know, and I do feel like that, misconstruing, like being a, you know, I want to say being like a good Christian or a practicing Christian, you know, I just mean like I mean, yeah, tolerance is something, it's an actual thing and just depending on where you're, you know, breaking that down of how it's being relayed is is very important because of the context of how you're saying it. But I feel like that term does get used more as like, oh, turn the other cheek to being like, you know, allowing people to keep you down or, you know, smack you into place. I think that was a very good way to put that and I can't wait to say that to somebody else, when I hear that, I'm like, well, did you know, you know, did you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, my body did see.
Speaker 3:My life is like an apple cap, information stuff now.
Speaker 2:So the other thing too like the Bible is a really it's a really controversial book, but how the Bible like teaches us, like what to do, and even how it was written, like Jesus told us or not Jesus told us, jesus told his disciples to go into different cities and preach, and so we're not just supposed to like stay at home on the couch and like do a Bible study. We're, we're supposed to like get out there and preach the word Right First to um, what is it? Uh, frick, I forget it. I forget what it was. But, um, essentially, you're supposed to like go, like small, to your family, then your community, then the city and then the nation.
Speaker 2:Right, it's like going to all the world and preach the gospel, right, but like he's, he's telling people to go and he's telling people to get out there into uncomfortable situations. He's not telling people to like just hang out and hope people come to your church. Right, I feel like the church, for for a lot of people it's it's being used in the wrong way. They're trying to go there to get fed. I think it's probably good until like month eight, nine or 10 of being a new Christian, and then you have the Bible and you are a sovereign human, so you can read it, and you're not in Iran or China, so you're not going to get thrown in jail for that.
Speaker 2:But I feel like the perspective shift that I want everyone to have is that the church is like a really easy on ramp to get people saved. You don't have to know everything, but you can invite someone to church because there is someone who knows more than you, and it's your pastor. Hopefully he knows more than you. He's not 100 percent Right right, I've I disagree with my pastor on several things, but I because he's a human being he's not going to get it a hundred percent right, but the, the local church is one of the greatest ways for someone who maybe doesn't know all the all the right answers to just invite someone into the community and be, just, be like a conduit or a connector and just I mean. So here's, here's, here's what I did and why I'm so passionate about this.
Speaker 2:There was a church that I I didn't help start it, but I was there at the beginning and I helped it grow a lot. We started during COVID, which was in Seattle, which was crazy. I think Seattle had like one of the longest periods of COVID. It was like all the way out until like 2022, until all the restrictions were off, which is insane. But we started a church in COVID and I was there like 12 people in the living room, and then my pastors actually encouraged me to start posting more about political stuff after I went viral, which was amazing because so much really good stuff has come of it.
Speaker 2:But I kept inviting people to church, online and offline, like wherever I went, I was inviting people to church, and this was like about the same time that I had come back to the faith from kind of like what, tim, what you were describing where I was just like out in left field doing my own thing, you know, partying, drugs, women, the whole nine yards and so like. I wasn't necessarily like, I didn't have a long like, didn't have a really good track record of walking with Jesus, but I knew that my pastors did, and so I was so impacted by the church and my life had been changed tremendously because of, like, the teaching there and getting close to Jesus and the thousands of people that I got to go through the doors of my church just my church and I was. I was encouraging people to go to church, like nationwide, and so the number could be in the thousands, but there's there's also dozens and dozens of stories of people whose lives were changed because I invited them to church. Let's go and that's.
Speaker 2:That's a humble brag right. That obviously I'm like, but you can do that too. Anyone listening can do that too. I'm not special, no, no.
Speaker 3:And I think, but I was like don't tell your mom, dude. No, but I think that's and is it's being able, it's communicating, it's expressing and being able to, whether it's you know, you're talking about politics, religion, whatever you know like it doesn't take, like you don't have to be whatever that in person thinks, is that special thing to be able to impact others around you. You know, and I think that that's you know kind of. You know, I know we get to experience that, whether it's you know, from doing the podcast or and having you know or just our jobs in general and life and sounds like yourself.
Speaker 3:You know it's like, look, you know, whatever experience is up until you know, tying in with that church, especially at that time during COVID, with the restrictions and everything is probably very chaotic, but to have that as the aftermath of being like able to sit back and, yeah, take the humble brag, of course, you know, at least put your name on something where it's like, hey, what I did and how I influence things helps people either bring happiness or happiness to the people around them. It's like it's a ripple effect. You know, and you know, having those opportunities with more people sought out to do that, not realizing that it doesn't have to be something crazy. It doesn't. It could be a little thing, little thing, you know, and then that sets the trajectory for a lot of good things to come. So I, I think that's awesome and, you know, I I need to start practicing what I preach more, but I definitely, uh, there's something to that well, so here's.
Speaker 2:It could be as easy as like saying oh, like what? Like what are your plans for the weekend? Oh well, you know, saturday I'm going surfing or fishing or whatever, and then Sunday going to church, going to brunch afterwards with some people, blah, blah. It could be as easy as that. Right, I've invited several people to church just from that, because, like, oh, church, like what church do you go to? Oh, I went to Hope Village.
Speaker 1:You should come. Dude, dude, I love it, man, you never know. Gosh, just planting that seed. You know, plant the seed, get people there, let the Lord do the rest. I mean, it's huge. I know what changed me is people that were praying for me, my parents terrible gentry, but remember my mom was like Tim, I pray that you don't go to hell every day. It's like, mom, this is still terrible gentry, but I remember my mom was like Tim, I pray that you don't go to hell every day. I was like what do you think of me? I'm like geez man, is it?
Speaker 2:a prayer. I'll tell you this my mom sent me the movie Flight with Denzel Washington right, great movie and it was like it was a great movie movie, but he was just like self-destructive. Yeah, and she was like this movie reminds me of you they're like well, did I land the plane, or what?
Speaker 1:yeah don't you love how just brutally honest moms are, because they love you, dude. But great, I mean it's. It just goes along with inviting people, having people that are praying for you. It's so important. It's so important to pray for others, and I'm with you on that, man.
Speaker 1:I've invited quite a few people to go to different Bible studies and church, and even just from this podcast it's interesting when I started talking about my faith it's been about like two years now, and before I did I was on here talking. I was like I don't go to church, I don't need any of that. Blah, blah, blah. But you can. What I tell people is you can hear a man who's searching and struggling, he's trying to find his way, he's trying to figure out why he's here, you know. And then I started talking about my faith on here.
Speaker 1:The more I opened up about it, I was shocked by some people that were messaging me friends and other ones that would hit me up on either social media or send me a text, and I was like I had no idea that you were struggling with this or that you were even a believer at one point, kind of like I was or you're interested. It's so crazy when you just start talking and just tell them hey, this is what the Lord did for me, this is where I've been. Come with me, come over here, come check out this church. You know, come with me, come over here, come check out this church. And I was actually surprised how open people were, even to the point. We're now on our instagram. On sundays, I post a verse up, I just put it up on the story and I will tell you those verses. That is the most traction, uh, reviews and stuff we get like. The last one did last sunday had 35 000 views, I think, like 10,000 shares or something. It was just a simple verse in a picture. It was crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just like wait what.
Speaker 2:That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's happened a couple of times now that one had the most traction. I can't remember which one it was, but I get the daily verse off the Bible app, stuff like that. And you know, I have a friend who's who unfortunately just got diagnosed with some cancer, so I'm sending him stuff and everything. I'm like I'm just going to post this one up, but to me it just shows you that man, people, everyone's hurting and going through something. Dude I mean that's why.
Speaker 1:It's just, everyone's trying to figure out their way, man. We're trying to figure out why. What is this the purpose? And realizing that my purpose is being in that relationship with the Lord has brought so much peace, so much hope. It's almost like that struggle's kind of gone as far as being lost, trying to fulfill that desire, as they say, that God-shaped hole that's in your heart, that's only filled by Jesus, but you're filled with other things that are not Him, that you know you're not supposed to be doing. But you go filled with other things that are not him, that you know you're not supposed to be doing, but you go for it anyways. And it's one thing my dad always told me your flesh will never be fulfilled. You're always going to want more.
Speaker 1:It's never going to be fulfilled. And another thing, that he told me is like your reason. I'm trying to remember, I'm just paraphrasing here, but it was along the lines of you know, you can't trust your flesh because your flesh is always going to let you down, but your flesh isn't even going with you when you die.
Speaker 1:And I was like dang, dude, I was like my man knows, my man knows. Now the last thing I want to ask you real quick, gentry, is like, do you think it's your faith now that drives you? What's your motivation behind, like putting these things up in your life, how your life has kind of turned into what it is after you know that video went viral, you know what, what? What is like kind of motivating you to keep going, cause we have social media. I have it, dude. I um, there's a few. There's one account I had I'm not going to talk about it cause of San Andy, but we sold it and did well few. There's one account I had I'm not going to talk about it because of San Andy, but we sold it and did well.
Speaker 1:But, dude, social media is work. It's a lot. It's a lot to to stay up with things and you're on it, like when something happens that's in the news, that's pretty major, or something behind the scenes. When I open up any of my apps, the first thing I see is you. I'm like dude, my guy is on it.
Speaker 2:Thanks, man, I uh, honestly, it's, it's a really selfish reason. Um, I want to have a lot of grandkids and I want to have a ranch. Uh, I'm like, I want to. I want to get married, have kids, have grandkids, like the whole nine yards I know I want to have a ranch in Wyoming or Tennessee or somewhere, maybe Montana. Um, and I want to live the American dream. I love it and I I've gotten probably closer to 200 million views on the content that I've posted over the last four years and I get messages all the time that you know, like you've, you've woken me up, you've, you've gotten me back to church, you've done this, done that, and I, I'm just really passionate about saving America, because not necessarily that we're the most moral country, but we're the ones that hold, is holding everything together.
Speaker 2:And the, the, the, the radical left, and, and people throw that phrase around all the time and it, it, it's almost like a nonsensical thing. It's, it's one of those words that like doesn't have any meaning, but like when, when. When I say radical left, at least I mean like socialists, marxist people who hate you and are trying to, like, take away everything that America is right, the American dream, and they've done a decent job with that the last four years. And if Kamala gets in, she's going to do a really good job of taking away what like our, our livelihoods and and just the opportunity to, you know, have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Or, if you read John Locke, the pursuit of property like it's going to be so hard to own property. It's going to be so incredibly hard. And so that's why I'm fighting so hard for Trump. Not necessarily that he's like the most moral person. I'm a huge fan of him. I could debate anybody on anything, any like lie that he's, that they're saying about him. But in my view and Charlie Kirk actually had a really good post about this but in my view it's more of a it's, it's more of a chess move than anything. Right, if we get Trump in, it's going to help. It's going to help me, it's going to help a lot of people live the American dream again, right? So that's why I'm fighting so hard for it, because, I mean, trump's not perfect. It's pretty obvious. But he's absolutely hands down 100 percent. The best choice for america.
Speaker 2:If you like, um, to keep more of your money, if you want to have safe cities, if you want to have a border, if you don't want to keep funding endless wars. Like they're talking about raising taxes for the kamala, for like for kamala, and we're sending billions of dollars overseas, and I'm like, hang on. First of all, why are we paying taxes? Because you can just print it. That goes into like monetary theory, which we don't have time to get into. But we're also getting taxed out. The wazoo income tax probably isn't even legal at this point, or they're making it legal because of endless wars, right, if you go back to like 1913 and the Jekyll Island thing and like the advent of income tax, even during the civil war, it's just absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:So, like, that's why I'm so passionate about Trump. It's not just like I'm in the cult, right. I do think that there are probably some people who really don't know what they're doing. They're just going along with the hype, which is fine, right, there's. I've always said that there's like, um, you know, 90% of people are sheep and then 5% of people are actually awake and then the other 5% are controlling everyone else. So, um, like, but like I can articulate very well why I'm fighting so hard and supporting Trump and the next guy after Trump, and you know, the next best candidate after Trump, because I want to have a ranch and I want to have a lot of grandkids.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it, dude. I love it. I mean, it is the American dream man To be real. I don't see myself retiring in California. That is something that I would love to have one day is a lot, lot more property, openness and land. So I feel exactly what you're saying, especially with my wife being pregnant with our first child now, like Jordan, has three kids. You know, and it's it changes you man, it changes your thought process, it changes you know how you want to live, where you want to live, what's the future of my for my daughter? And you know, I've talked with this, with Jordan and some other people like how in the world is my daughter going to be able to afford a home in Southern California? It's almost impossible now. I live in a decent, middle-class neighborhood, but everything is well over $1.2 million. That's not what this neighborhood was built for. It's not supposed to be that way. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:On your current firefighter's income, can you afford the house you live in right now? Oh how long you have to say probably not a lot of our firefighters.
Speaker 1:They can't even live in the in the county that we work in they're two to three hours of work. We have many that live out of state that fly yeah, I mean for our state.
Speaker 3:Uh, a firefighter job is full-time, is a lot higher than most other states, so but the income is skewed because everything around it costs just as much. So it's like if you looked up to see how much like average firefighters, say, california makes, if you're coming from another state you'd be like, oh my gosh, they're crushing it out there, but the average cost in the county that we live in for a house is 1.2 million dollars. You know what? I mean.
Speaker 3:So that's just that's, just the purchase of the home. So I can assure you that a standard firefighter wage is not enough to live, at least in the respective county that we work in. You know, the only times where you hear guys or women that have bought in the last, you know it's normally they either have a dual income where their significant other is doing very well, or they bought 10 plus years ago, or, like even in myself, like I purchased a home in 2008 after the economy. Just, you know nosedove and it's like it's more you. You know which.
Speaker 3:I was fortunate to be in that situation because at that point I had nothing and I scraped into getting into a house, and you know so looking at people now, especially when we work with, like you know, newer hires or younger folks in the in the fire industry, like I, you know, a lot of times I ask you, like you know, how'd you get that? How do you have all this? How have you done it? And you're like well, I've been doing this for like just shy of 20 years, you know, and I've I've done a lot of.
Speaker 3:I've done a lot of things to put myself in the best case scenario. And I mean don't get me wrong, dude I had fun, I did a lot of silly stuff and all that, but I also was focused on, like, having a goal. And now I look at these kids coming in and I'm like I don't know how you're going to do it. Like, can you rent out a basement as your parents house and not pay anything for 10 years? Then you might have enough to put a down payment on a place that you'll be broke on anyway because you have to rent every room out to try to sustain it.
Speaker 3:You know, and and again, I'm not. I'm not a housing expert. I do have a little bit of knowledge in real estate, but everything's inflated. Oh my gosh, I'm blanking what's the word. I'm trying to say it's high, anyway, it doesn't matter, but what I'm saying is everything's inflated across the board. You know, loan oh my gosh, I'm sorry I can't think loan, oh my gosh, I'm sorry I can't think uh, but I don't know what the fix is to that other than trying to reshape like economic value for as a whole.
Speaker 3:You know, if we cannot outsource everything, we can do things inside our country. We could limit some regulations that hopefully can drive. You know, everyone's always worried about capitalistic marketplace and it's like, you know, the goal isn't to have one person be the most expensive and the most powerful. The goal is to be able to generate many people that can do that, which drives actually down costs. And or maybe even you know, the quality of whatever you're trying to purchase, you know. So it's like we limit that and we get confused with why we're in the situation that we're in, you know, and there's a lot of other influences just in capitalism, you know. But anyway, I don't know how, I don't know how people are going to do it.
Speaker 1:And I don't know, but I'll tell you what, gentry, if you, if you get a lot of uh acreage, I'll, I'll take two, you know.
Speaker 2:I'll. I'll buy, you, sell to me. Dude, I'm in, you know. So can we build like a compound in Wyoming or something?
Speaker 1:Dude I'd be down as long. As long as I get a little pond and I put some bass in there, I'm golden Dude, I love it. Well, gentry, we're, we went way over time, but I feel like, dude, we want to have you back on again because there's so much more I want to talk to you about, but it's like we're out of that time. But thank you for just coming on here and being open and honest and chatting with us. It means a lot, dude, if we've been trying to get you on here for quite some time, and I really appreciate it, man, I really do and, if you don't mind, I would actually like to pray for you, if you're cool with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's do it, let's do it, man. Heavenly Father, thank you for this time that we've had with Gentry. Lord, he's sharp, he's smart. Continue to keep him sharp and smart and encourage him and keep him motivated to keep posting and doing the things he's doing on social media and his other endeavors. Lord, father, we pray for our country that you continue to guide us and lead us and get us to a place where we're back, to where things can kind of be normal. Lord, we thank you for what you've done. We thank you for for Gentry, in this time that you've given us. Lord, bless him and his future with his family property, whatever he's going for, lord, and just guide him. Thank you for this time in Jesus name, amen, amen, gentry you are one heck of a dude, my One heck of a dude.
Speaker 1:my friend, I hope you had a good time on here man. We really appreciate it, dude.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I'm going to send that clip to my mom. Oh yeah. Hey, well, I'll send mine.
Speaker 1:You send yours to your mom, dude.
Speaker 3:I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, jantje, see you guys.
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