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Season #1 Final: Merry Christmas
Our final episode for this year is a tapestry of emotion, woven with threads of personal triumphs and the contrasting shadows of the holiday season. We share our experiences, from the joyous buzz of giving during a toy drive to the sobering reality of those who find themselves isolated during festivities meant to bring warmth and camaraderie.
With laughter and vulnerability, we traverse the undulating terrain of life's journey, acknowledging the power of forgiveness and the profound impact of relationships. I recount the comical tale of a restroom debacle that turns into a moment of universal empathy and an unexpected reminder to cherish the simple things. We also delve into the stabilizing rituals that keep us grounded, from the discipline of routine workouts to the cathartic release found within the pages of a journal. It's in these candid exchanges that we discover the shared heartbeat of our community, each beat a testament to the resilience we foster within ourselves and each other.
As the episode unwinds, the threads of our conversation are finished with the challenges and triumphs of transformation. We reflect on the bittersweet dance of parenting, the shifting perceptions of our parents through the lens of adulthood, and the enduring gratitude for the podcast family that rallies around us. The journey is punctuated with stories that resonate—a firefighter's solace in our words—and the unflinching honesty of facing the discomforts necessary for growth. Join us for an homage to the past and a toast to the future, a conversation as rich and varied as the lives we lead.
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Welcome back to our last monthly review of the year for December. So everybody knows Jordan Jimiola, our host. He's about to have his third child. So, jordan, congrats. We love you and you are in full dad mode. Cheers dude Evan here today.
Speaker 2:What's up? What's up? Man Cheers Jordan Dude's. So happy for you guys, looking forward to meeting the little one. Heck, yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to be good. And then also, Sam, our camera operator is not here. He's got engaged. He got engaged.
Speaker 2:And it's his birthday today. It's his birthday today.
Speaker 1:Happy birthday Sam happy birthday, buddy Woo.
Speaker 2:Dude, so much going on.
Speaker 1:There's a lot going on this month. There's a lot. There's a lot, a lot of change coming for next year, but it's been a good year and I'm excited to see what 2024, that rolls better. Huh, not 2024, 2024?
Speaker 2:2024, yeah, it rolls off the top. Yeah, we'll do 2024.
Speaker 1:But anyways, yeah, we're going to wrap this up. This is going to be a shorter podcast than normal, but if you can, please like, subscribe on YouTube, instagram, spotify, facebook, all that, all your major podcast platforms. We are there. We'd really appreciate it. Thank you Very much. But anyways, man, it's the end of the year and, just like everybody else, I'm sure it's been a year full of ups and downs, or some say the highs and lows.
Speaker 1:Yes, the trials and tribulations, the trials and tribulations, boy, that's an understatement, right, but for me there's still a lot to be thankful for for this year, even though we're living in a time that seems like there's a lot of shifting sand or unstable ground. A good example for me today is that there's still hope in people, because I volunteered to help at work, to like pick up toys with the toys for tots or something, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't remember, People should probably know the name. Yeah, Anyways, they drop it off at the fire station fire stations for people to, you know, for them to come pick up and hand out to needy families and stuff. So yeah, I went around, I had like a route where I went to six or seven different stations and I had a van and I will tell you right now that van was packed. It's like one of those like plumber vans or loading vans where there's no seats in the back right. No, windows.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, there's bikes, bags full of toys I had I was stuffing. I was trying to get the bikes in and my my thought was like wow, yeah, this is super cool. This is super cool, it's showing me that there's still hope in people and humanity and that people still care Big time.
Speaker 1:There may be differences as far as your political views, religious or whatever it is yeah, but people still care. It was really cool to see that. It kind of it blew me away a little bit. I'm like all right, all right there. You know, we're not all pieces of crap out here and this whole society isn't falling apart like the feels, like the news is saying, yeah, there's certain things that need to change, but it was. It was cool to witness that and see and be a part of it.
Speaker 2:You know, it's funny because I think that when we like, like we've we've talked on here about the past, of like as far as like with what, the news, what they want you to see, and like that you know life is hard and life is difficult, and like it is unforgiving, right, but on the flip side, there's so much humanity still going on.
Speaker 2:I think that there's, you know, we could turn on the news and get angry about, like this it's like these people are the blame or those people are the blame. It's like it's either them or us and everything you know. But when you go outside into like regular everyday life, especially around this time too, it's just like it is magical, like this time is magical because of, like you know, people want to give people, or like, like people kind of remember, like, oh yeah, you know, we do good things for each other because that's how we move along as a race. Really, like you know, we move forward because of the community that we build and it's like, it's like that, that well-being of, or like that good cheer as, like you know, the Christmas, the joy of Christmas. The joy of Christmas, yeah, but not getting it down, Not having what you're saying.
Speaker 1:And what's interesting and sad is I was listening to a bunch of podcasts and they were saying the people that do studies this time of year and how this time of year is when people are the most lonely, the saddest and most suicidal, and I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1:I was like wait a minute what I'm thinking from my point of view. I try to look at perspectives from from, you know, a full world like 360 view right, top, bottom, left, right, not just from my one vision, but, very blessed, I've worked hard for what I have. I come from a solid family. Do we have our own madness and dirt and craziness? Yeah, every family does. It's wild right, but we still have always been there for each other and helped each other through hard times. And I couldn't I couldn't imagine this time of year being without family and being on your own. How tough that must be.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, it started to hit me when I thought about it. I'm like, wow, I can. I can see, then, why they're getting these statistics that are so high of people feeling that loneliness when it's kind of like that special time of year it's ending and people are traveling back home to see family members or friends or whatever it may be, and so it's like it bummed me out to hear that. But it also makes me have more empathy when you're out and about doing stuff and trying to, especially in my career field what I do Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and especially this time of year it's kind of like dang man, it's rough. So it's why it was for me it was nice to drive around and pick up toys and drop them off.
Speaker 2:That's amazing and I think you know it's interesting. It's like you know, usually around this time it's like you're, it's very happy and festive, or it's very sad and lonely and like, and sometimes it's like either, like you know, missing someone who's no longer here with us, and I think it's like you know it reminds you of a time that's no longer here and everything you know that's and I think for people like that, it's like obviously having a lot of sympathy and empathy for these, for those people, and just you know, reach out to your friends, reach out to your friends, your family, and you know it's again like it's not always going to be festive for everybody.
Speaker 2:just like you know reaching out and like not nothing crazy, just like letting, like letting them know that you love them and that you care about them.
Speaker 1:And I can go a long way. Love the ones you got right Exactly Time. Here is quick, yeah, I right.
Speaker 2:Dude, I like, honestly, I think, as far as like, with like as this year ends, right, one of the things that I think that we all get caught up with I definitely do is that you get so caught up in life and like with how the year is, like, oh shit, the year's ending, right, and I've noticed this recently for myself that I, I think it's like.
Speaker 2:I think it's like, like it's like I do my best not to take things for granted and be very grateful for what I have and who I have in my life, and sometimes I think I catch myself slip in of like you know, like Not not having as much gratitude as I meet, like I I should, yeah, and I think that, as far as like this time of year, obviously it's like it shouldn't end, they shouldn't like you shouldn't save it till the end of the year, but like this is a great time to like reflect on the highs and lows of the year of like you know what went really well this year, that you really enjoyed, what Didn't necessarily plan to work out the way that you wanted to, and like how could you've handled it better and then again, keeping reminding yourself of like you know, the gratitude that you have of like you know who you have in your life or what you have in your life. You know, like understanding, that's like oh Well, how you were now compared to five years ago. It's like there's a big difference and I'm like there's a lot of growth that happened there that we take for granted. So I think that this time of year is, I think it's just a beneficial time that, if you allow it to be, you know, and like taking that time to reflect on like I think it's great to have self-reflection, especially in Like this time of year, because again it's years and the new year is, like is upon us and you know, yeah, it's like it's in a couple weeks. Literally it's two weeks. It's two weeks from yesterday, right?
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's quick, you know, and so, like dude is quick, this year went by quick and like I think that I only gets faster and faster. But sometimes we just need to like be present in the moment and that we need to like just absorb as much as we can, because the time that we do have, we don't know how long or how short it's gonna be, and so that's something that I don't know, I was driving down here and I was like kind of just thinking about that.
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:I, I just uh, like, I, like I just need to appreciate the things that I have right now and the friends I have, like now, like again for you, for example, tim, like dude, I fucking love you man.
Speaker 1:Oh, my man, thank you.
Speaker 2:Hey, so like.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you and like.
Speaker 2:I'm very grateful for what you've done for me throughout the years and, like you know, I just wanted to like take the time honestly, like again you and the guys I mean dude, like you guys are just again like Don't want to get sentimental here, I think you know it's like, but you guys, honestly, like you know, doing this with you guys is just it does mean a lot, and like I am very happy to take time out of my day to like whenever I can, to come down and, like you know, chat it up with you boys.
Speaker 1:Oh, heck, yeah, no, appreciate the words really do, but you do hit a lot of good points, Hit on a lot of good points. It's easy to get stuck in that negative mode and I struggle with that at times.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know.
Speaker 1:I did this week. It's like I have a lot of great things going on. I still felt like, oh my gosh, I'm not good enough, I'm not doing well enough. And yeah, and you look, sit back, you take a second. It's like, wait a minute, I'm actually doing really well.
Speaker 1:Yeah this is, first of all, problems. What am I tripping out over? You know, yeah, you know, looking back on the year, there's a lot this year. This I would say for me, this year was one of the first years it's not nuts where I really don't have any like Regrets as far as regret of doing things I'm not supposed to be doing or treating people wrong or whatever. It's kind of like I really try. I've been trying to pass, I'd say, a year and a half to years to To change how I talk to people, how I present myself to others, being more intentional with my time. Yeah, listening. I think this podcast is maybe a very good listener because we come on here we don't have anything written down.
Speaker 2:We just hit record like, hey, let's see what goes. We don't have a script.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know it was an intentional year and a year, a lot of year of growth and, for me at least, from my faith and the things that I've been really trying to put into practice now taking that more serious forgiveness and how difficult that can be, especially when it's Family, close friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like two what's normal people?
Speaker 1:I'm like whatever dude say what you want, I don't care, but it's when it's something, when it's people you actually care about and you love man.
Speaker 2:It's a little deeper. It stings a little more.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, it really does. But it comes down to for me, you know my from in my own life in this year and the growth that I've had spiritually and just personally In my relationships with family and people I love, the more I took my face serious better, better those things got, and that's not saying that's, you know. You know, turner Brown, you're going to hell. You know I'm not that type of person, right, I'm not gonna be that way. But I came really see that those things that you pull from scripture and living a better life and how you treat others, and the biggest one for me is forgiveness, doc, and I look back, you know, many times I want to forgive. I still won't forgive this from certain people from my past. Right, but passes past. You can't change what's happened, but, dude, it's, it's very healing in a way. So, like you're letting off this Excuse me, this boulder that's on your shoulder, you're fine releasing it, yeah, and you realize everything everyone said when you're younger it's not for the person, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know I was. I was gonna say it's like you know, it's, it's not, it's not about them, it's it's for you. But I, I understand exactly what you're saying. Yeah, as far as like, it's like you know, forgiveness is a lot harder, maybe because it's like you, you're the one that has to like, has to handle it everything, because whatever the other person did, they did it, whether they feel like remorse for it or not.
Speaker 2:Like it's not really on you how they feel, because, like, they're gonna feel how they feel and sometimes they're not gonna feel anything, they're gonna be like no, no big deal, like I didn't. Like is like, if they're not gonna, it's like they're not gonna see it. The same that you do, yeah, but it's like it is about you kind of relinquishing and letting go of that because, again, if you hold on, it's like holding on to it, it still has control over you. Yeah, and like it like it dictates kind of what you do or how you are, and Sometimes it holds you down and weighs you down. So, like, by letting go again, like it lift, like you lift yourself back up.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I think that you know that, for forgiveness is powerful and again I say this, but you know there are some things that, like, are hard to let go, and I got understand that. But, like that's, it's a process of letting go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm a hundred percent. I'm bored with everything that you just said and you know what's so great about I think if you're self-aware and you're really trying to do better and you're trying to grow, you're gonna look back and say, hey, I could have done better here, or oh, I was cool to see that every day, man.
Speaker 1:How far we've come in a year and all that, but for me, you know, for this past year of just hope, yeah, it's really brought. You know, it may I don't know why I just got emotional saying hope, but because there's been so many times in my life where I didn't have hope, you know, and you feel like you're alone and you're not gonna make it, and you know to. To know what that feels like and then be on the other side now and to be doing well and To be able to speak to others who are in difficult positions, is very unique.
Speaker 1:Yeah and I've been able to have a lot of people who've listened to the podcast Message or friends text me like hey, this person, this guest, you had said this, or you said that I don't know that this person even struggled with that and never would have thought. Or I didn't know you struggle with this, or you Know, you said this quote that was pretty cool, or yeah, something along those lines. So it's been nice to have those very deep conversations, conversations with people and to me they're priceless.
Speaker 1:It's cool to be able to connect with you, know people that you care about, fellow human beings that are Going through life just like you are, have highs and lows, difficult times, and you can actually say, hey, I've been there, like it's not the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I know I can.
Speaker 1:Maybe I know what you're going to, maybe I don't, but I can definitely empathize with you, you know, and say this there's gonna be like the end of tunnel and it's gonna get good. And we're in in 2023 on a really high note with the podcast and just all of us in our personal lives and however thing is just thriving. And you know we talked about earlier, looking towards the future for next year, what we're gonna change in the podcast, what we're gonna do and change things up, because you need change. Yeah, you need to be continually evolving and trying to be better.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a firm believer in that. I feel like if you are someone who loves comfort and stagnant, that's a slow death and and I've witnessed it, I've been that way some that some points in my life or just kind of Sat around it nothing, yeah, at some points it's okay, I think. Well, you know it's okay to sit around sometimes. Sometimes you need that, that like, okay, I need a second to myself, but you got to know when. All right, need to get back to work here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that sometimes Sitting still actually kind of helps you move forward.
Speaker 2:I think that's sometimes sitting, but I guess like it's Like sitting still with your, with your thoughts, and like stillness and everything and having that.
Speaker 2:Because, again, if we're constantly moving, sometimes Sometimes movement isn't always forward, sometimes backwards, sometimes like you go off track, right, yeah, sometimes you need that stillness for clarity and like you need that time to just like kind of recharge and like understand again, like that reflect, finding out like what you need to do.
Speaker 2:I honestly like for me, like I, like I've had like a sometime To where I'm, like I'm not necessarily moving as fast forward as I want to be in like my own like business life, right, not, I'm not doing bad at all, by the way, it's like, but it's, it's a thing where I'm like you need to stop sometimes but just to see like okay, what direction do I want to go in?
Speaker 2:Right, because like that's the thing, and like what you're just saying, too, is like we're Constantly evolving, where it's like, yes, like move and adapt, and like you know, like you start out with like having a vision of one thing, but again, like sometimes like it's like it's not, that's not how life works. I go here and then you go here. It's like no, you usually go and go up this route and then you turn around the other side and then you come out a little bit of a different person to where. It's like no, you need it slightly. I just did to make it a little bit more refined and more of a clear vision of what you truly want. Yeah, so that's what I gotta say about.
Speaker 1:Mom, and no, it's cool, it's nice to. I'm feeling the ease of finally the end of the year, and so people know, in here too we're gonna. Usually we did this past couple years, but January is where we take a month off from recording and everyone just kind of start in the year. Start to your nice, relax, do your thing, and so I'm looking forward to hanging with family, relaxing and kind of not being in this workflow or we're always here, right, hustle, hustle, hustle. We also need time to relax. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta have the time to yourself to reflect and renew and refresh and, I think, get creative again.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, I think it comes in seasons where it's like you know, there's there are seasons that you know that, like you know, you go like for these like sprints of, like just grinding away and all and like just maxing out as much as you can.
Speaker 2:And then there are times in like periods in the year, periods in life when you're just like, okay, I think I need to just kind of, like you know, cruise a little bit and everything, not necessarily like Stal completely, but like, just like, okay, cruise, sometimes you do need to stop, you do need to, like you know you need to fill up on gas and everything before you keep on going right. But like you just like, there are times where it's like, yeah, like there are times to sprint, there are times to walk, yes, and so you know, yeah, january it's just gonna be kind of a time to just kind of just cruise around and the like, just like in the pool area, just like, have a nice little Kick back just relax, dude, not be under stress.
Speaker 1:Dude, you want to hear a really funny story about stress? Oh boy, this happened to me. Okay, and this is not. This is not the first time this has happened, I'm ashamed to say, but I would just tell you, when you are stuck in traffic and you need to go to the restroom because you've been drinking coffee all morning, bro, there's a panic, there's a panic in your body that sets in. Yeah, that it's, it's. You can't describe. It's like, okay, I'm going to cut across five lanes of traffic right now, for I'm gonna break a bunch of laws because I'm not gonna be a grown person who goes to the restroom myself. For we're gonna do this. And this was.
Speaker 1:I had just got done surfing, oh boy, yeah, and I got to the water and I baked coffee. It was doing my thing and I loaded up Barbie. I was heading home and it's funny because I have my RV right well, I Drive to go get gas right. But for some reason on PCH there was a car that was like broken down. It wasn't a car, is actually like a really big bus, oh shit, right, and it didn't get pulled over all the way. So it's kind of like jamming up traffic over a thing. It's like PCH and Warner.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know so. And why I can use RVs? Because after I got done surfing, I had used the last of the water to rinse off, so I was getting all the sand off myself and my board real quick and I'm like, oh, I ran out. You never, you shouldn't do that in your RV. Anyways, I was just lays that morning. I didn't fill it up, so I'm going and dude hits me. Yeah, I need to go to the restroom now. Yeah, like right now, to the point where I took my seatbelt off and undid my Bell buckle and this is terrible, oh yeah. So long story short, I get to the gas station G, I park my RV terrible try to run in and there is the one restroom and it's full. So I go over to this restaurant. That's like across the way. Yeah, and I try to. You know, mosey and quick, I'm moving fast and I just go right into the restroom and install and do my thing. Yeah, I Hear female voices.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I hear female voices and I was like, wait a minute. Oh, I don't think this is the mill restroom.
Speaker 2:Oh wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, news to say I I stayed in there a little bit long to wait for all the females to leave, but you know they keep coming in and out right and let me tell you they use the restroom Just like the men do. It's pretty wild. It was a wild experience. You know, I get out of the restroom as soon as I walk out, all eyes around me and I just like, oh my god, I bounced, I went straight to my rig and left.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but, you know it's like the and I shit it shouldn't be this way, right? You know, as first responders fireforsied, cheap, teach you how to handle stress and all that type of stuff, but I'm sorry, that's a different stress. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a whole different thing and it was super embarrassing and I left and like two minutes in driving I just busted up laughing.
Speaker 2:It's just like whatever dude, it is what it is. Dude it's, oh my god. Like I remember when I was going to college. So it was like I was working in Irvine but I was going to stay at Long Beach and so I work all morning and so I would have probably about like three cups of coffee and all that like by 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, yeah, and so I'd go straight from work to drive to the school, which you know like it was a good like, maybe, like you know, a 40 minute drive and everything. But sometimes like there'd be traffic, horrible traffic, and there was, and it was like it was around, yeah, just just past, just past Fountain Valley. Basically it was like the traffic was all backed up and I was like, hmm, I need to go to the restroom. It was a parking lot and pretty much it wasn't moving for a good while time and by the time that like it started inching, I was like, holy cow, I need to go. Like you know that cold sweats that you get, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think, it was like to the thing where I'm like I need to find something. I almost didn't make it to him, but I found a coffee bean and I, like you though I did not go into the women Thanks, coffee bean. Thank you, thank you for being so generous and letting me go, and all it without buying anything, because I was a broke college kid, even though I was working, but, yeah, never had any money but dude, oh my God like that. But you know what, though, when you sat down in the toilet, what a relief. Oh, the relief Absolutely Doesn't compare to anything else. That relief, is.
Speaker 1:Dude it's like it's blissful Dude yeah, yeah yeah, it's like you have climbed this mountain. That seemed unclimbable and you made it to the top. It's like entering the gates of heaven, mountain Everest, right there, Bro I mean there's nothing more satisfying. Then you finally make it there. It's like, oh my God, thank you. And then reality hits. I'm in the women's restroom. You know, it's like now I need to deal with this, but anyways, I just thought that was a great story.
Speaker 2:That was a great story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, there's.
Speaker 2:So that happened more than once.
Speaker 1:That happened a long time ago. A long time ago I was dating this girl down in San Diego. Oh OK, it happened that one time it was rough dude.
Speaker 2:Man.
Speaker 1:Super rough. So that's why, yeah, I just like Now you have a fun story to tell though. Yeah, the embarrassment though walking out and feeling all the eyes kind of come on you and everyone's like what is weirdo. You know it's like no, it was an accident, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Is that my bad?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it won't happen again. I was rushing, yeah, but, dude, you know I think I wanted to ask you. Yeah, because I felt it this week. You know, I put a little thing up on social media talking about it. But you know how do you combat when you're not feeling well as far as about yourself, or emotionally, mentally, feeling down. Is it going to the gym? Is it working out? Because, for me, you know, I need to get out, I need movement. Yes, I need the sun on my face. I can't, I need to get out of the house. That's why mountain biking or surfing in the morning, running, cycling, something where I get movement in and I'm working and focusing, really, really helps me. I was wondering if you're the same way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I thought a lot of the same way. Actually, honestly, again, having a routine does wonders as far as like for like helping with that, like just like in general, but like, but yeah, no, like getting getting great workouts in, like honestly, like if I'm feeling down myself, but then I have like a really good workout. Like I may feel a little I may still feel a little down about myself, but I'm like I feel at least good enough. It's like that was a fucking great workout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and all you know but that going and taking the dog for a walk and all that and also just communicating too.
Speaker 2:I think communication like if you're feeling down, letting your partner know like hey, by the way, this is how I'm feeling right now, yeah, just because, like, if you don't like, sometimes, like it's just like, if you don't communicate that then they're like okay, what's up with them? Is it me, did I do something wrong? And it's just like. It's like no, it's like it's it's all me, but like I just need to let you know that like hey, like I'm not feeling the greatest about myself and sometimes, like you know, like like talking to somebody, letting somebody know, it's like you know I'm feeling this way, talking it out with somebody and everything, whether that be like you know you're a significant other, like a therapist, a close friend, like letting them know, and all that because sometimes they'll kind of help remind you, like of who you are.
Speaker 2:Basically because sometimes, like, do the things that go on in between these years, like the neighborhood that that's in isn't always the best, sometimes like there's like some real asshole tenants in there and all that like, and they, they like to bring in their two cents, and so, like, sometimes you need reminders. I mean, I think David Goggins talks about it too, like like the cookie jar, right, like you need to get a cookie right yeah.
Speaker 2:Like dude, like you're that motherfucker, you know it's like, yeah, you know like, yeah, like, but like you're like, oh, I accomplished this, oh, I actually have this going on for me right now Like, having like reminders, like, so I think it's a combination of things. It's like movement is definitely the biggest thing Getting outside, getting movement in, doing something to like, getting something to, you know, push yourself, like, exert yourself physically. I think that's one like one main thing. Second thing is, like you know, journaling, writing out stuff, writing out like mind dumping, writing out your thoughts, writing out like what's bugging you, because, typically, when, whenever you end up writing stuff, you end up coming to your own solutions, and then also communicating, talking with people, like people know, like those close around you you know like how are you feeling, the people that you can trust, and all that and that, like you know, cause talking to them, they kind of help, whether they like, whether they're intentionally doing it or not.
Speaker 2:It's like they kind of help remind you of who you are and who you're not, and I think that it's a combination of those things that really helped me. I think you know, I mean like I have, I have great people in my life that, like you know, if I do feel down I could talk to them. I do go with therapy, like I do talk about it. Sometimes I feel like, if things are going well, I'm like I feel awkward in therapy right now because I don't know what to talk about. I don't feel pretty good.
Speaker 2:And then other times I'm like, hey, so I'm feeling all this shit right now. How do I go about doing this? And but honestly, like I think the gym for me it's been the one constant Cause. Like you know, I've had. I've had friends come and go, I've had family members, that's like you know. I can't really trust them with this stuff because it feels awkward.
Speaker 1:You know, do.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, it's just like but you know, not to say that I don't love like. I love my family, like, and everything Like I could talk to them about a lot of stuff, but there's just sort of things that I'm like I don't really want to talk to them about, right, but the one thing that's been a constant is been the gym for me, and yeah, I think that, like, I mean, how about you, man, like what do you do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's it's definitely, it's definitely getting up, it's definitely movement, the gym and all that Cause I'm my own worst enemy Big time. I am very, very, very hard on myself, probably to the point where it's like, hey, dude, you're kind of mean.
Speaker 1:Hey, hey, it's like you know, I've heard someone say that If people could hear how I talk to myself, they'd probably be very, you know, ashamed. Right, how can you say that about yourself or what you're doing? You know, and, and that's why a lot of times I have to get out and get that movement or, like you do, talk to somebody like, hey, man, I'm feeling this way about this and and you know, a lot, most times we're like, bro, you're way overthinking right now. Yeah, yeah, like just relax. Or sometimes like, yeah, hey, you know, let's talk about that, maybe we could change something here or do something different here.
Speaker 1:But the overthinking for me is a huge issue. I haven't been working that out with therapy and I got like an appointment next week and same thing, I 100% believe in it, I, and I believe in it for men and women, but especially coming from a male perspective, yeah, I think men need to understand. It's OK, go for it, talk to somebody Big time, tell them that you're having a hard time and struggle. And it's OK to have emotion. It's good to cry, to feel sad, to feel joy, to feel, you know, uneasy at times. These are emotions that are God given to help you process certain things not sit there and suppress it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, not talk about like this is the manly thing to do, like no, you need to talk about it. Yeah, it's OK to talk about. I was like that for most of my life and that's no like hit on anybody else that maybe is doing that, or how I was raised in. You know the household I was in, but you're talking about different generations, raising new generations, Right, and cultures change, things change, right. And then talking about you know, for my own family, my parents, where they came from, my dad was born in 41. My mom was born in 51. Yeah, my mom's black, yeah, my dad's white.
Speaker 1:You don't think my mom went through some stuff in the south in the 50s and 60s, when racism was just booming? Yeah, oh, like you're. Oh, absolutely, she went through a lot, you know. And on top of that, what my dad had to deal with when he grew up with it in his family In the example he had. Now they're taking that to their kids, right, right, and they had me a little bit late. My dad was 44 when he had me. Yeah, we were talking about a guy who was raised in the 50s, 60s, right, young man, yeah, and now he's raising it up a son he had in the 80s yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So those are things like you go to therapy. They help you kind of break down and think about those things that you've dealt with, whether it's childhood trauma or something that happened in your thought life. You start realizing there's these things of why and how and why people act the way they do, and it's actually made me a lot more forgiving and empathy. You start realizing, you know, hurt people, hurt people, man. It's like, oh, I wonder what that person's going through. You know, the other day, you know, someone cut me off and flipped me off. I swear I wasn't doing anything wrong, I was just driving. Apparently they were in a rush and it was. It was the morning.
Speaker 1:It was like 7.30 in the morning. I was going down the beach, so of course I'm cruising. You know, I'm like I have the day off, I have nothing going on. They're jamming pop. Wow, I'm like, come around and flip me off. It's like whatever dude. But what am I gonna do? Flip them off back and, you know, get an argument with this dude? No, it's not worth it. But you start realizing. You know again that you know where you come from. I think it's very important to know where you come from and, understanding your parents and their childhood and what they went through, you know, you start to realize oh okay, now I see why they kind of were the way they were, which I don't have anything bad to say. There's no book on raising kids.
Speaker 2:You figure it out as a kid, right Like and being a dad now it's like, it's like oh, it's hilarious, like the moment like again, every dad, I think, could relate to this. They're like our most dads can. It's just like that moment where it's like you do something and you're like oh shit, I'm my dad, you know like, or I got my cause, like, it's like almost identical to being like, oh, I. It's like I remember when my dad did this to me and everything where it's like I get it now, kind of thing.
Speaker 2:You know, I think that it's funny, cause I feel like there are times I mean, maybe this is not with every parent, but like there, there's definitely a time where it's like I was resentful how things kind of turned out as far as like with stuff with my childhood, and, like you know, I think that there's a point in time where it's like, oh, I don't want to be like as independent from your parents as possible, but then it's like, you know, cause, like you see them, I think it's like as a young kid, it's like your parents or dad, larger than life and everything.
Speaker 2:And then you know it's like you get to a point where that image gets broken. And then, like, there's a point in time where you're like almost resentful because you're just like, it's like you're not the ideal of who I thought you would be. And then you know, it's like you go through that. And then it's like, you know, going through the life cycle of getting to a point where you're an adult, you're like, oh, you know what I think it's like I understand why they did what they did or how like they raised, or like who they were as a person. And then, when you become like, and then when you become a dad yourself, then you're like, oh no, I get exactly why they did, exactly what they did. And then obviously there are some things that you disagree with, but you know, it's an interesting thing of like. It's an interesting thing, this thing called life, you know. But you know it's a-.
Speaker 1:Mystery of life, man, the highs and lows and the tragedies and wild times people go through, why some people have great success and why some people struggle the whole time, cause I've dealt with it. You look at it. I was like God, lee, man, how in the heck, how's that person doing that good? You know, like I've been way better decisions, you know. Or someone gets ahead that you're, you know that promotion at work and you didn't get it.
Speaker 1:It's like that guy's kind of weird and not that smart. So how did he get that Like? How did that work out? But you know, what I've learned is, you know, I think I'm a firm believer that things happen in our lives for a reason. And you're at, we're at for a reason, cause there's something you need to pick up and learn, yeah, something you can get from it. You know, instead of looking at from the negative point of view what kind of I'm always, what can I do to change, be different and do better this time and move forward from a certain event or decision that has happened and again it's moved me into this year of way less regret, a lot more being intentional and a lot of gratitude, especially for me, cause my parents are older my dad's 80, 85, he's born 41, whatever. Anyways, my dad's is mid 80s, mom's 75, you know they're not gonna be around forever Trying to. Is it a lot sometimes to chat with my mom?
Speaker 2:Yeah, dog yeah.
Speaker 1:I love her dude if I call him like man. You're such a gypsy mom. I love you so much you're so wild yeah.
Speaker 1:Not to say gypsy, is a bad thing. But I always tell him like you're eccentric and I love it, cause she does her own thing, it doesn't care, yeah, you know. So it's pretty cool, but it's a year of gratitude and being thankful, and thankful for people who've been tuning into this podcast and it's been. It's been humbling too. It's pretty cool to be able to do this and then make all the connections that we've made through it, people that we get to come on and chat about life and how some stores have been so inspiring for people, even one firefighter who finally sought help. He was having really low, dark times in his life and he listened to a few episodes and how we've talked about mental health and that it's okay to reach out any day and finally got the help he needed. You know, to me that's priceless man.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's amazing, you know. It's like, oh okay, we're doing something right. Yeah, we're doing something good here, 100%. You know we're having that impact on someone's life, and so it's. There's a lot of gratitude for this year.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:There really is. I'm very thankful and I want to stay on that track. I want to keep my faith strong. I want to keep going down the road that I'm going. That has a lot of change. Has it been easy? Not at all Right. Has someone been, you know, fun, or you know a little bit hard or a little bit easy? Yeah, there's nothing. It's a mixture of all of it, of course, yeah, but the reality is change is hard. When you're changing behavior or taking your life in a different direction. You're going to, you're going to leave things behind, yeah, whether that's relationships, sometimes family, yeah, friends, and that's hard. I've noticed that with a lot of people. It's hard for them to let go of friends or family or things they know that aren't good for them. I've lost friends this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, dude, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:You know you're like, okay, if you don't want to be a part of my life, or that you just stop talking. It's one of those things You're. Everyone's life starts to go in different directions and if you are trying to be different and change, sometimes that's hard for people to see. They may know your past, or they don't agree with what you're doing, or it just could bring up that they're. They don't have the strength to want to do better for themselves. Yeah, you're going to get hate and people talking trash. You don't lie, I mean, that's what it is. Yeah, I always tell people what are you going to do? Take my birthday away? Yeah, like, fine, don't like me, dude, honestly, dude.
Speaker 2:It reminds me of this quote I saw on Instagram the other day and, like, honestly, like I saved it, but I'm like it, like it hit me and everything a little bit, and it goes a little bit more of like what you were just saying. But you know, in order to grow into the person that we want to be, we have to let go of the person we are.
Speaker 1:Ooh.
Speaker 2:And I I just like it. Like I remember I was reading that and I could just like stopped. I was like, wow, that really hit me. Like honestly, and like I've been ruminating on on just that quote the last couple of days, I'm like who am I currently? And like, but who do I want to become? And like, what do I need to let go in order to become that? Like, like, what part of myself do I need to let go? Yeah, in order for me to rise up to that occasion? Yeah, and you know, like there are things that like that's that's the thing where it's like you know there are like you can't take everything with you, like there are gonna be things that you pick up and there are gonna have to be other things that you have to like leave in the past.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because sometimes those things are the things that are weighing you down in order for you to do the great things that you were meant to do.
Speaker 1:Oh, man, dang son, let's go, dude.
Speaker 1:It's true. What's the remember inner seller? He has a quote in there. I say it all the time Is it might be scientific, oh, whatever, it's a blue quote. But to get to where you want to go, I'm gonna leave something behind. Remember, he was in that wormhole, whatever it was doing, he just jetted himself. And she's like. No, anne Hathaway. Yeah, I think about the whole time, though it's so true, to get to where you want to go, to evolve and be better, I think about it now.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm working on my master's degree. To complete my master's degree and get to that point, I need to leave certain things back. Right, that means, am I going to go hang out at the beach all day and surf and nap? No, that means I go to the beach. It's just short of a bit of time. I need to get home and I need to work on projects and essays, right. Right, you're going to have to leave certain things behind to get to where you want to go, are you? Sometimes you're going to have to work at a job you don't want to be at. In order to get to the job that you do want to be at, you have to sacrifice. I did it. I know you've done it. Yeah, I mean to get to where I'm at my career.
Speaker 1:I started I worked way like two hours away as a seasonal firefighter, middle of nowhere, you know. Did I like the job? Yeah, it was fun, it was cool. I was 18 years old and I was going on. Was it some of the hardest work I've ever done? Yeah, dog, it was crazy. Yeah, it was hard and we're not paid that well, but it was experience. I knew it was going to be a resume builder and by getting that fire experience and working as a seasonal boom I go in these interviews and when I got hired it's like, oh, you already got fire experience. He's worked as a seasonal. That's hard work. Like, yeah, let's take this person on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Intentional intentional grind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's very, very intentional and it's not easy, man. There's even now. There's things that, excuse me, I have to do to get to where I want to go in my career or with this podcast and personal relationships with people. It takes time. It takes evolving and changing to be a better person studying, going to school, having mentors, talking to people who are in the position that you were trying to achieve or promote to and that takes putting yourself out there. Yeah, you know making you know are you going to fail them from when they're testing you or asking you questions or giving you mock interviews? Yeah, it's going to feel uncomfortable, it's tough, it's embarrassing, but that's what makes you better. Yeah, you know it's hard, because I've had to do it. I still do it now. It's uncomfortable. I can tell you right now I don't like school. I really don't. But I know now that it is better for the future of my life and my family.
Speaker 1:Say an example the opportunities it's going to make for work. You know, being educated, getting smarter and I was not a good student in high school. It's terrible, terrible student, yeah, and every never you want to go to college. It's like this is not me, right? I was thinking I'll just get hired as a firefighter, call it good. And I did. And then I realized, oh shoot, they're right, I need to get an education. All right, now I got to go back to school and I would tell you, going back to school as an adult, working full time, and you have a home and all this other stuff, it is for me, it was a little more difficult.
Speaker 2:You know it's interesting that, like you say that, like I mean again like, as far as like it's more difficult because of the more responsibilities that you have. But would you say that in a way, it's made you a better student, though, coming back when you're, when you're like an adult, compared to like when you were a kid?
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, I take it way more serious now. Yeah, I would feel I'm a lot more responsible Dude. Yes, better time management yeah, I think. Just an overall better understanding of life yes, and people, and for some reason, however, that equates to whatever it is, I think you're very much right. I'm a better student because I have life experience.
Speaker 2:Yes, I say that, I ask that because you know. So you know, my fiance is going back to school too.
Speaker 1:Hey you.
Speaker 2:And she's crushing it. I love it.
Speaker 2:She's fucking crushing it. Cassie, baby, I'm so proud of you, I'm so proud of you. But anyways, we talk about this quite a bit because I think she like kind of voices the same opinion that you face, right when it's like, you know, growing up, going to school like wasn't a good student. The thing is like, I got my degree. But here's the kicker I was never a great student, like I did. You know the bare minimum, just get by, cease, get degrees whatsoever Granted like again, the experience of college and the experience of like having a higher education. I think it was beneficial because there were certain things that it did help me with. I do think that there were certain things that kind of held me back a little bit too, and everything with, like the way of thinking in college as, like again, even though I was in my early twenties, like my early twenties, I was still a child, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And you know, and so like like that life experience and not having that. And then that's like, you know, taking the face value of like, oh, a lot of stuff that was theory, but it's like, oh, these are great, these are ideal in theory, but the practicality and like the reality of life is very different. And so we go, like leaving college. I think it was definitely a more of a hard transition because, you know, when you leave college as a young person, you know you have all these ideas in your head from college. You're like, oh, this is the way that the world should be. And then the world's like, yeah, but that's not how it is, like in everything. And so you're like you have to like understand of, like, okay, what's great, but not ideal, like not ideal for a certain situation, and like you have to learn actually how life actually works and not this bubble that is college and that is university.
Speaker 2:And I think that going back as an adult and everything, I think you have a major, you have a major advantage over, like you know these, like 18, 19, 20, something year old kids, right, Because you actually have a better understanding of how the world actually works. You could kind of tell when the professor is being is bullshitting, you know, and there's like up on their high horse where, like, as you know, a young kid you're like, oh well, they must know because they're a professor, and like they know more than me, obviously, and most of the time it's like what you come to find out, it's like, yeah, a lot of stuff they spew. It's kind of bullshit.
Speaker 2:Everything like there's there's a nugget here and there that you learn that you could take with you. That's like solid, but again, like it's as far as like with the conversation and like learning different viewpoints, I think it's great, but yeah, I think it's coming back as an adult, you have a very better idea of like how things work and like you have a lot more diligence, you take it more seriously and you get better grades because of it. I've like I don't. I have not met someone who's gone back to school and done worse than when they went to school the first time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Usually the second time around. They're a lot more serious, they're a lot more diligent, they have a lot more shit going on too. So there I got my. I can't fuck this up because I'm like I'm taking time out of my day that I could be doing X, y and Z to do this, so I might as well put effort into it. And also, I think again, for us men too, it's like we develop a little bit later than women do, and so by the time that, like, we go back to school or we do a course or something like that, when we're older, we have a lot more attention to that and like attention to detail, because we're like, oh, we've kind of matured a little bit more as well.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you know, it also helps with me doing loan school because I'm paying for it dog cash. Yeah, I better pass. Yeah, you know I'm not going to do this again, because this is really expensive, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, I'm still paying off my loans too.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, it's a wild thing to always think about that. You know, education, education. But they're leaving so many young 20 year olds with hundreds of thousands of dollars at debt and guess what?
Speaker 2:And here's a, here's the other kicker too. It's just like, and like most jobs that you want to get and everything that pay good. They're like, oh, but we want experience. But like, how the hell am I supposed to get experience if I'm going to school and everything? And it's like you know it's in this rat race and like, also, like you know, inflation goes up, but then, like, the price of living hasn't gone up. So, or it's like when they do do a race, it's like you're getting a 5% increase. It's like, yeah, but inflation is 7%, so really I'm getting a 2% decrease. And so, like you know, it's, it is rough for, like, people who are going to college now. And also, I think that's like incentivizing, like colleges as a business more than like actual education.
Speaker 2:I think that's screwed it screws over the student, and so I'm like, yeah, I have my criticism of like a formal education. I think that it's not great, but like, yeah, paying for it is a big motivator. But those kids who like it's funny because I'm like I was one of those kids that had to take out loans and like I'm still paying for him right now, but like yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's somebody I love deeply who's got student loans. And like, oh great, here we go. Yeah, I saw a really good meme and it was making fun of kind of all we're talking about right now and it's. It was like here's the job description. Like you know something, manager, you need a bachelor's degree, master's degree and five years experience. Starting pay 1550 an hour. Yeah, exactly, I was like dude that sums it up right there, yeah that's like perfect.
Speaker 2:I think that also. I think it's it's funny because, like with them, like with businesses that like try to hire, like these, they basically want to have like the starting position. It's not necessarily really a starting position. They want you to work for free so that they don't have to pay you, and it's like so that you get that experience that way, so that like you're like, oh, it's an unpaid internship.
Speaker 2:Yeah or it's like oh, or like oh, it's like this, like part-time gig so that they could pay you pennies on the dollar, Right, Even though it's like the work that you should be being paid for is actually like supposed to be like a salary pay. But you're like, yeah, like you know, finding the loopholes of like paying less so that they can make more of a profit too. Yeah, so it's like everyone's making a profit, except for the.
Speaker 2:You know the, unfortunately, like the student or the worker basically which is why, being an entrepreneur, make your own money, like like you know, it's like like, of course, like, yeah, if you want to, if you like working for somebody, sure, but it's like it gets to a point where it's like, honestly, and especially in this world that we live in today, it's like you got to find a way to like accumulate skills and create career capital so that you're able to like make your own destiny. So do like, do what you can like, learn, study, like, pick up and make a skill, do something that's going to be of value, that people want to pay you for. That value, of that like skill that you have accumulated over the years. Yeah, so I mean granted, for me, that's personal training, that's online coaching.
Speaker 2:Like I love what I do, but that thing is is like I've gotten good at what I do, yeah, but that's taken a lot of time and effort, and like a lot of studying, and like the thing is like I wasn't a good student. But, dude, I love diving deeper. And like like continuing my education with this because it's practical, it's something that I'm like I can learn it and then I could apply it the next day with a client, and that's literally what I've been doing the last 10 years of my life. I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it. What's one thing as we close this out? Yeah, this year one thing. What's what do you think before this year? One of the Christmas season, the year is ending. Lots happen this year for everybody, but what's one thing you're thankful for?
Speaker 2:God. There's honestly like I have like five different things, but, dude, I'm just, I am just thankful for the life I have with my family and I'd say, like, with that, I'm thankful that my fiance said yes earlier this year.
Speaker 2:It was obvious. But, like you know, like, yeah, you know, like I'm happy and I'm thankful that that went the way it went. But I'm just, I'm thankful for this time. I'm thankful for the time in my life with, like with my fiance and our son and I, just this specific time in his life that I get to watch and I get to see and all that. And, like you know, I'm just, I'm thankful that I'm here for that and that you know it's yeah, I'm, that's what I'm thankful for.
Speaker 1:I hear you, I think for me, family, yeah, I really come to understand in my 37 short years on this earth, now more than ever the importance of my family and the people that love and keeping them close, working out our problems and getting you know they were sorry, forgive, move on. You know it's so important to be tight with your family and you know it's it's. It's been so nice even with my sister, how almost like almost weekly, we're getting together and having brunch or breakfast or just chatting on the phone, text each other, and how much my family has really helped me through a lot, not this year, but just over my lifetime. Yeah, you know even times where I didn't talk to them for a year, you know. And then finally fixing things and gosh, it's so important to hold those that you love in your life so close because it's here and gone so fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I've seen that with him. You know my career field. We see people passing away every day and that's the one thing you see. A lot of regret is more time with family. I've never seen people wish they had more money, more possessions, a better job or a bigger home.
Speaker 1:It was time and family and that's always struck me. I'm like, ooh, that's heavy man, cause at the end of the day, you can't take in this with you. Yeah, when it's over, it's over your, your cards punched man, you meet the good Lord. I mean that's, it is what it is in your times done and everything you've done here on this earth, your money, your possessions and how cool you are on Instagram won't matter. Yeah, this is, it's gone. You know, being more intentional with my time this year with my family has been one of the best decisions I've ever made in my entire life. I don't have kids, none of that stuff, but I'm saying I'm immediate family and you know people that I'm with and I love, and that's also our podcast crew and how tight we've gotten and just our Christmas dinner together was so much fun and so special to have everyone together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a great time yeah.
Speaker 1:It was. It was so good and it was so just lighthearted and nice to see everyone laughing and happy and just excelling. Everyone's like engaged in marriage and Jordan's having a kid and life's moving on. It's, it's. It was one of the best nights I think I've had in a long time and so for me it's been family this year and so I hope for you know, people listening and it's Christmas season and, yes, it's good to work and gifts get. You know, work hard and get gifts for people, but the best thing you could ever do to show your love for somebody which I have learned the hard way too is your time.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Spend time with them, be intentional with your time, listen, be with them. You'll never, ever regret it. I'll never regret this. The amount of time that I've been spending home, you know, picking up less projects and skydiving less or surfing less or whatever it may be that I'm doing, because I'm a very active person, yeah, and actually putting that more to the side and putting family first has been so amazing. So I just want to ask you that it's a. You know it's too bad, we couldn't have the whole crew here, but hey, you know what I always tell everybody family first. Yes, we do that here on this podcast. And so to Jordan, congratulations on your kiddo coming. Sam, happy birthday. We love you so much.
Speaker 1:Thank you for everything you have continued to do over the years here on this podcast. Yes, sir, you and Cassie. Thank you so much to you guys for believing in this and being a part of it and just the little family we've kind of grown through this whole podcast thing and it's been really cool to see. And also to our listeners thank you so much for tuning in to listening and sharing things on social media downloading. It's been phenomenal to be able to do this and have people on and get the feedback and hear people being inspired. This whole point of this podcast is talk about life and you can hear other people's stories the good, the bad, the conspiracy theories because you know we love them. Thank you, but I can't thank you enough. A lot of hard work goes into what we do here. But from me and our podcast crew, thank you so much. Merry Christmas, have a great new year. Thank you so much. We will see you in February. Yeah, february, march is a lot of change coming, but anyways, into Evan. Yes, sir, my man, hey, love you.
Speaker 2:Love you too.
Speaker 1:Thank you for everything.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Hey, dude, thank you. Thank you guys Honestly like thank again. Second, what Tim said Jordan and Sam Jordan super excited for you and your family and Sam. Happy birthday man. I love you guys so much. I love like honestly viewers. Thank you for tuning in and, dude Tim, thank you for this opportunity. Thank you for this friendship man. Honestly like from day one. Man like you've always been a great dude.
Speaker 1:And I have always appreciated you.
Speaker 2:I appreciate again this family that we've grown together with this let's Go podcast. So with that man I think we should send it off.
Speaker 1:You want to take it out, dude?
Speaker 2:Sure man, hey, so that's it. Everybody Like and subscribe and dude, here is the 2023. Let's welcome in 2024 with a. Let's Go on three One, two, three let's go. Bye, everybody. Ah Ha, ha ha.
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