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The Artful Athlete: Nature, Nutrition and Nurturing Wellness
Ever thought about how the power of nature is intertwined with art and creativity? This week, Sam and Evan share their appreciation for the stunning symbolism behind personalized jerseys, masterfully crafted by our cohost, Evan Nelson. It's not just about style; it's about a deeper connection to nature, an echo of the enduring bond between skin art and the natural world. Listen as we reflect on Evan's thoughtful creation, immersing ourselves in art that resonates with our hearts and feeds our souls.
Unravel the mystique of nutrition and protein, as we take you through their integral role in recovery and healing after taxing workouts. We're not just talking about food as a source of pleasure; we're delving into the importance of what we consume, especially protein, in driving our bodies to peak performance. We examine the 75-Hard Fitness Program to highlight the role of accountability and the power of a compelling 'why' in staying motivated.
Ready to explore how training smarter, not harder, can redefine your fitness journey as you age? We've got you covered. We share wisdom gleaned from our own journey, stressing the value of learning from missteps. We don’t shy away from discussing the challenges of the 75-day program and the importance of sleep in recovery. Join us as we navigate the benefits of a disciplined bedtime routine, and the role of good sleep hygiene in ensuring optimum wellness. This is more than a podcast episode; it's a commitment to embracing a healthier, enriched life. Let's get started!
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My beautiful people. Hey, welcome back. It is not Tim Fisher. Actually, I am the replacement for today's episode, along with my co-host.
Speaker 2:Sam, jimmy, ola, that's me, that's yep, yep yep, yep, we're the black Jordan that should be a 23, but hey guys.
Speaker 1:So if you guys love this podcast, make sure you like and subscribe on YouTube and make sure to download on any platform that you listen to podcasts with. Again, that's not how Tim does it, but I hope that was good enough, so let's go ahead and get on into it yeah, that's you, that's all that matters, it's you, it's me.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's not Tim, it's you, and it's you and you are beautiful and bro. I can't run it. I love you too baby. I love you too hell, yeah, well, hey.
Speaker 1:So, sam, what are we gonna talk about today? So this is a, this is kind of a. We don't have Jordan or Tim. We love both of them. They're both freaking amazing. They can't make it to today's podcast. So what are we? What are we gonna talk about today? Jordan, so I'm playing, I'm personifying a little bit Tim and I know that Sam's doing a little bit at Jordan, so it's like that's kind of our little thing today yeah, sam. Sam Mr.
Speaker 2:Mr Kamalafi. You know, I think, how I want to open this up, bro, is I want to give a huge shout out to this man right here to you, because I walked in this house and I was under the the assumption that you know we were gonna discuss something about whatever, and I didn't know what it was. But you know you would.
Speaker 2:You said yo, let's talk and everybody, can y'all meet on sat on Sunday? And I was like, yeah, it's a Sunday, but let's do it. And then I walk in and you, my fine friend, you all right. So this thing right here, this is from Evan Nelson. Evan, drop this on all of us. We all have our own jerseys. They are, they are almost exactly what we would basically be into, right, and it's almost like we were there and our numbers they're just random numbers that you know we happen to like, for whatever reason, and just the whole vibe, and I was even telling.
Speaker 2:When I saw this, I told you, yeah, I said this is something like I can literally put this on print on the rest of my body and just like just just blast everywhere and I love it, dude, it's so. It's so. You know, cultural, authentic, ethnic, it's everything that is me, you know, nature, everything, dude. So I just want to say this is amazing and it's funny because I saw Jordans and Tim's. Obviously yours is you you know, but seeing theirs.
Speaker 2:I'm like dude, like that is exactly what they would like, exactly you know. So I mean, this is me and every one of them is there, so I just want to say thank you. It takes a lot of, first of all, love, gratitude, everything good in someone to think about that, doing something like that for someone else. You know, and I was in me, I was, I told you guys, like I wanted to, almost I almost came to tears because, like for someone to think about doing something for me, like what? Like you literally had to go outside of your whatever you were doing in your life and just be like Sam would really like this, and I didn't know about it so thank you, man, I love you bro hey, man, dude, okay, love you too.
Speaker 1:Man, honestly like yeah, so like these jerseys not. You know, I noticed that Tim and if you guys watch too, tim has this really cool. Let's go podcast. Baseball jersey custom made it looks super dope, yep.
Speaker 1:And you know, I was just kind of thinking. I was like, dude, how cool would it be if we all had jerseys, right, like for the, for the team, for the let's go team, right? And I was like, well, we could be cool and have all the same jersey, or we could put our own little personal spin on it and everything.
Speaker 1:And so like I just I really I was like man, like I just kind of playing around with it. I was like dude, like these guys are really dope and all and like again I love you guys. And so I'm like why can't I just do something nice and everything? And so I just sat down, I kind of looked through kind of like the stuff and I'm like, oh my god, I'm like each one just like stood out to me. It was just like this is very much like again. So Sam, so Sam has for those who aren't watching, who are listening Sam has this like beautiful like black jersey with this cool like floral pattern and it has like the tiger on it, right, a jungle print.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like, I love it, dude because, this is like what I want as far as just artwork on my body. I already have roses and I have plants and flowers and animals yeah you know, and I think it's.
Speaker 2:It's funny, dude, it's what's. It's so crazy. I just thought about this, how nature is, how some of the best hats are nature influenced. Yeah, it's how we it's. Yeah, we just have this connection, you know, and we go right back to nature and we put it we use the whole art of tattooing to put it back on to our bodies. You know it's, you know, back to. You know back to the to the earth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyways, I love that dude of course, yeah, yeah, actually with yours in particular, I was like, oh, this is great, because I was like the tiger, is this like what is like, like what is majestic and powerful, everything. I was like this. I was like this, don't like it just represents Sam so well.
Speaker 1:So you know again, like that's like, that was like my, my pick for you, man no man and again I don't want to describe like Jordan's or yeah, I'm just like I'll let them wear it and then, like you guys will see it, and then you'll be like, oh yeah, that's totally, that's totally them and I like, again, like I'm so excited for them to see it because, like again, they haven't. Well, tim, tim saw his, but Jordan it has it. I'm really excited for Jordan to see it.
Speaker 2:He will love it, bro, he's gonna love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it, yeah yeah, so we all have different ones and everything, but it's like all like personalized to us and everything, and so it's like we're all under the same team, but we all are individuals as well.
Speaker 2:So so I want to transition real quick to the so what we're wearing, basically, and well, I mean I could shut up the hat. I mean I always wear this hat, but it's, it's dope. How you know, I'm wearing the panther and then I got the lion and all the. So that's dope, yeah, but I want to. I want to talk about your hat, because I've never seen this prototype. Oh and yeah, man, and you know your, your business is moving and you know you're looking great. You're doing a lot of, a lot of. I don't know if they're, I don't know if what you're doing now is new, but it's definitely difficult, is shit. So, yeah, man, I don't know. I think we should jump into it, okay, and it will. First we could talk about the hat. So, yeah, yeah, rep it bro yeah, so, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the hat that I have, it's my business hat, it's prime fit coaching is the name of my online coaching business and I think we like Sam to. We talked about it in the last podcast, which I was fun by the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, by the way so, you know, I think that we definitely should have like a fitness, like a fitness, like a segment on this, and also, tim, this is, this is the thing, like, yeah, let's do it, you know. So hopefully you viewers like it, you guys. If you guys enjoy this, like, leave a comment in the comments below come on all the lettuce give us some feedback, let us know what you want to know, fitness wise, and me and Sam to dissect. Yeah, get it. Yeah, so I'm sorry that was a little late, but I got a but so.
Speaker 1:I'm fit coaching. I'm so, for those who don't know, I've been a trainer.
Speaker 1:It'll be 10 years in November damn and nice, yeah, and, dude, I love, I love my job, I love what I do as an in-person trainer and as well as an online coach, and I really like working with parents, just because you know life gets at you fast and everything, and like usually parents are on the back burner as far as when it comes to their own health and fitness because they're so busy taking care of, you know, their kids and they have their responsibilities for work, and so you know things kind of happen and then, like you know, years go by and you're like, oh wow, why am I like? Why do I feel shitty? Or why am I like just out of shape? Or like why are like going up the stairs like difficult?
Speaker 1:yeah everything right, so grand. Not not all my clients are like. Actually a lot of my clients are really badass. So again, my clients who are watching this just know that when I think of you you are a badass because, again, like, a lot of them are fucking like they're working with you, bro, man.
Speaker 2:I mean, no, I know yo I'm working with them.
Speaker 1:These guys are like first responders, like a nurse, honestly, like again, like, like, my people are just fucking awesome. And so, again, like a shout out to all my clients out there, but huge, I just yeah, huge shout out, huge shout out. But yeah, so you know, it's like a. My online business and online presence has been growing slowly but surely and it's starting to pick up a lot, so it's really good for, like, really business is really good. But yeah, no, I just I love what I do.
Speaker 1:I love working with people. I love helping people get to their goals. In a way, that's like it doesn't seem so strict and kind of like demystifying what it means to like actually get in shape or like get down to the body weight that they want to be and being able to get stronger and being able to do more things with our kids, because that's a that's more important thing. It's just like you want to be strong and healthy and capable so that you're not only there to, like you know, protect your kids, but you're also there to have fun with your kids and able to do stuff like get on the floor, play with your kids, get out there, go running or you know if your kid books it, and all that you're able to chase them down Before they get into a lot of trouble and everything which. I could say that from personal experience. So, yeah, cause, like my boy likes to run.
Speaker 2:He looks like he could put on some speed man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's fast, yeah, oh yeah, dude, like honestly man, like again I put that kid in track, but but yeah, no. So these, these hats, I'm like this is like a little prototype that I'm kind of working with and. I kind of starting to make a little bit of merch for it. So but, yeah, there will be more developments with that.
Speaker 2:I love that, dude. One thing you said that was interesting is and I've seen it on your page a lot is demystifying, and I love that, because those of us who are in the, who just enjoy to work out we we've been doing this a long time we know that there are a lot of myths out there and there are a lot of ways of just a lot of things like oh well, you know, you should do this this way and that's, that's all you need to do, or you don't have to do this at all and you'll somehow lose weight, and these are all it's like. I mean, really, is that really? You know the? The?
Speaker 2:The secret to losing weight, or not even losing weight, gaining muscle, whatever you want to do and a big thing that you mentioned I think it's something that we all forget is not necessarily lifting, not necessarily cardio. I think it's. It's huge. What's huge is what you put in your body, right, you know, and not necessarily like veggies or you know those. Yeah, veggies are great, you know. But I think when I saw one thing that you, that you and I commented on it I don't know if it was a post or real or whatever I think it was a real and your real is, by the way, by the way, your reels, bro you are. So I think Tim mentioned this one time, but I'm seeing the transition to Adam's seeing it, bro, the growth.
Speaker 2:I'm like wow, yeah, I know this guy, yeah, yeah, he's dope, but they're really good, and you mentioned protein and I think this is this is something I struggle with, and I think you know we all struggle with whatever. But I struggle with this because I just my, my, I have a like an, not a, not a condition, but something that it's just. You know, it's hard to put food down, so protein happens to be something that's easy for me.
Speaker 2:So it's funny, man, because the more protein I not, the more I don't need like tons of chicken beef but the more protein I eat, the better I feel, yeah, and, and like I've been, I just I've told people like just just just try to eat. And Jordan told me this too, like a year or two ago, and it helped me and I knew.
Speaker 1:But, you know, as, as as workout people, we all I'm curious to say, like I'm curious to hear what he said because, like, because, like, because, again, like I, I trained Jordan too.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so I'm curious to hear what he says.
Speaker 1:So, Jordan, like it's like hopefully, hopefully, things I've said have like a trickle down a little bit.
Speaker 2:Well, it was in a good time. So for him, I know he was and this is just, you know, his personal experience but I know he told me, um, he was uh, squatting and benching, just more Like he was repping two plates, like repping, like you know, 10, 15, or I don't know about 15, maybe Jordan, I don't know, but he was repping two plates and two plates is not like light you know it's, it's a good, you know, I two plates for for those.
Speaker 1:So for those who, um, don't know what we're talking about, like two plates is two 45 pounds plates on each side of the bar, which is also a 45 pounds. So that's 225 pounds that Jordan was repping. Not light, not light at all. That's more than me and I'm I'm not a, I'm not a small guy by any means. I mean, some people might think I'm like a little bit of a munchkin, but like who the hell?
Speaker 2:I mean maybe like an NFL linebacker? Yeah, Maybe those guys are like yeah, you would think you're small, oh, big time.
Speaker 1:Big time He'd probably be, like he'd just be like oh yeah, oh okay, yeah Like a fucking mcnugget. That's what I'd be like, anyways, but like, but yeah. So 225, uh like. Or two plates is 225. Uh so right, right, like thank you yeah 225 pounds, pretty heavy so, but anyways, he was repping that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he was also squatting it pretty um effort, not effort, effortlessly, but you know better than he had. And I was like dude, what's your secret? Like, what are you doing? And he basically said um, so it was um. He mentioned some guy that he's seen on something. He said you know, man, like I just eat more protein.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So, whatever I'm doing, keep eating what I'm eating, but just implement more protein. Whatever it is. It doesn't have to be lean meats, but there are. There are a lot of sources of protein plant based. There was a lot of obviously lean meats, a lot of things you know. So just just put more protein in your diet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's more options than just like chicken, anything, right. But uh, yeah, like that's actually a through line for even a lot of my clients too, where it's just like when they start adding in more protein, they end up feeling a lot better. And I think about this way too, sam, is that when you're working out right, you're breaking down your muscle like you're like you're beating the shit out of yourself, like while you're like lifting this heavy weight right. So we need to give our bodies the proper nutrients in order to help recover and heal itself. Right, because if we don't like, so say that. Like you know, you did 225 on the bench and, like you, you didn't have really any protein or you had, like I don't know, like 50 to 100, which, again for again, for those out there, it was like Sam is one like muscle, like he's he's like a shit brickhouse. Like he is, like he is a muscular dude. So him, him to have like 50 grams of protein or even 100 grams of protein would be way too little.
Speaker 1:So like, but again say that you had that much and everything for the span of like, not only that day, but the couple of days after you're going to feel so much more sore from that workout because you're not giving yourself proper nutrients to help recover properly, to help heal yourself properly from the training that you did. So making sure that you're actually eating enough protein not only is it going to help you recover, also it keeps you more satiated, more full, as Sam too has said in the in the last podcast and everything. But you know, yeah, so like protein is like is super important. I think it's underutilized with people who just don't really know about nutrition. They just they eat again. Then. That's the thing too. I know that means Sam too, can like talk about this too.
Speaker 1:As far as like, you know people to see food as food and all and it's like something that's enjoyed and tasty and everything, and they go for taste. Grant not to say that like you know, we necessarily don't go for taste. I think like foods should still taste good, but you should also have it as a priority if like okay, what does my body need? And everything, and making sure that I give myself what I need first before I give myself what I want, and so, and sometimes those things can actually be the same thing too. And so and that's another thing too where, like, the demystifying is like, oh God, I have to go on a strict diet and everything. It's like, no, you don't need to go on a strict diet, you just need to be more aware of what you're eating and how much you're eating in order to get to your goal. And just like, yeah, you need to add in a couple of things. Like, yeah, you need to like it would be wise to add in more fruits and vegetables into your diet, because that's going to make you feel better because of all the micronutrients and the fiber. And you know, fruits great tastes like that's like nature's candy right there.
Speaker 1:So having that, but then also having the protein to help keep you fuller for a longer time, on less calories as well, because I mean, grant, not all proteins. There are some fatty protein sources, but typically protein, protein and carbs are less calorically dense than fats. So what does that mean? For every one gram of protein or carbs is four calories, and then one gram of fat is nine calories. So, again, like we can very easily go over our calorie intake if we're just eating a lot of carbs or a lot of a lot of fat and everything which, again, we do need our fat. We don't want to neglect it, but but yeah, just having like adding in more of those is going to be beneficial in one aspect. Everything, obviously, it's like understanding like is like the quality of food is one aspect, the quantity of food is another aspect and like we, like both working together, are going to be helping people get to their goals.
Speaker 2:Beautiful, very well said. Something that I was amazing meant. Something that I just came to mind right now is, I think one of the biggest things is demystifying, right? And then also this is such a huge word Intentionality. You need to be intentional about not only what you're doing, but what you're putting in your body. I think a lot of people are like I'm going to working out is a thing that I do, like I do this, like I purposefully put my body through this, like this crazy bullshit, like I'm just like, oh my God, I gotta work out and I gotta run, I gotta do all these things. But putting food in your body is more of a passive act. It's something that I need to do to survive. So I don't have to work out to survive. I can live my whole life and not ever pick up a dumbbell or ever run faster than whatever.
Speaker 1:But you know Life's gonna be more difficult that way, so it will it will, but it'll still be life Like.
Speaker 2:you can literally not eat without food. Arms are not eating. You cannot live. You cannot eat without food. You cannot live, that's called starving.
Speaker 2:You can't live without putting food and nutrients in your body. So I feel that people think of food as a passive. It's like this is just what I have to do, and something that like it's funny man, like a lot of people don't understand or whatever. It's something that I do, and I know you do, is I look at the back of everything so I can not only see the ingredients but I can see the, basically how calorically dense these things are and the calories that I'm eating, because that's basically one of the steps in being intentional, and then also I.
Speaker 2:One of the best ways to do that is not only to use whatever cups and grams to divide your food up, but to use a scale and I got. I was like, really, I mean, I'm a scale and you can come in, but then, dude, when you do it, it's bro. It's like then you exactly know what you're doing, synonymous to I'm going to run four miles, so I'm gonna do four miles, or I'm gonna lift these two plates, jordan, I'm gonna do whatever. I've come to the gym to do. So then you should mimic that by I'm going to eat what will sustain and what will assist that workout. Basically, you need to match that to be able to.
Speaker 2:And then, like you said, you're not going to lift or run or do any of these crazy things without putting nutrients in your body, so that, and dude real quick, I think it's not, for I mean it is, but I think you eat, not for what you just did, but for the future. You're eating for the next workout, you do whatever you do, and then you're like, oh my God. But then it's like, well, I need to put nutrients in to then be able to do it again. So it's the sustenance, it's being able to go. Do I want to do this again or not? And if you don't, if you just are like that casual worker out a person, I mean you still should eat.
Speaker 1:But I mean, it's like if you don't work out, you should not eat. You should like put down the fork. You're not working out, get the hell out of here. It's like no eating. Until you lift that God, stop eating. It's like Jesus put it down.
Speaker 2:Exactly, man. Put the cookie down. Yeah, man, I mean for real, though, like. I mean it's like you shouldn't stop eating, you should like. Eating is the basis. You know you should change that passive to what's the the? Whatever. The opposite of passive is that you should purposely. I was gonna say passive, I was gonna say aggressive, but I was like passive, aggressive, no, no, no Stupid. But yeah, man, you should basically intentionally eat, you know, you should just like your intentionally working out, right?
Speaker 1:And I think that I think that that's the one thing that we need to learn is just to learn how to like be more intentional, not like, I guess, like being more intentional with your actions, like with your food, actually, even with our honestly like intentionality is just important in general, just in life, right, a lot of the stuff that we talk about right now it's just like with, like, oh, our food and like our food intake and like what we're training for, or like running that four miles, lifting that 225 for 15 reps, jordan, I was like. I was like I'm like my God.
Speaker 2:Shout out to my brother hey, jordan, fucking love you bro. Protein man, protein, protein yeah, that's the name of the episode.
Speaker 1:Protein, yeah, that's the yeah, just straight protein. It's not just stupid, but just watch, all right, like our faces are going to just be like a protein bar, oh man, but no, but like.
Speaker 1:Intentionality is like just important in everything that we do, right, it's not just with the training or with the nutrition, it's like with the mindset, it's like with how we approach work, how we approach, like, our careers right, like being intentional with what we do because that's going to ultimately get us to our goal. Because, like, if you are growing in with no intentions or like no intentions of the outcome, it's like you're just doing it just to do it, which, again, for some things it's fine, like that's actually, like it could be a good stimulating, like a process for you, right. But if you're going for, like, if you have, like we should all have intentions, especially with goals that we have, like you know, we have to mark them down. It's like we have to make sure that we're doing work that's going to be in a line for those goals. We have to have that intention to do it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And so that's like intentionality, I guess, like that's the thing for our title here. It is dude, and I think you could spend intentionality.
Speaker 2:You could spend a whole like, not even just one episode, like just a series on intentionality, Because it's like, like you said, your workouts, everything in your life. If you can make intentionality like a lifetime goal like this is what I'm going to like, that's your goal being intentional. I think that's amazing and you know it's funny because so working out is you can be intentional there, you can be intentional with your eating I think those are staples, obviously, your thoughts, your actions outside of the gym, whatever, but as far as working out, I think your intentionality you are doing something that's intentional. You are like you are literally putting your body through grueling two days, right, and we'll get into it.
Speaker 2:But you're also, because you're doing that, you then have to double up or whatever you're doing. As far as your food something you mentioned that we can get into, maybe but you're sleep and I think, oh my god, dude, that's another passive thing, I guess, like how much sleep you're getting?
Speaker 2:That's something else that I'm like, wow, anyways, we'll get into it. But anyways, I want to talk about this new thing you're doing, because I've heard of it and when my cousin he mentioned it he was like, yeah, man, I can't eat this or do it. And I was like, oh, what are you doing? And he's a big dude, big. He's like was he 6'1", 6'2" big guy? And he said I'm doing this 75-hard thing.
Speaker 2:And I was like huh and yeah. So I'm not on social media as much as I'd like to be, but I heard of it and I went on there instantly and I've seen all the and I'm just like what? And yeah, it's grueling and literally intentionality to the max, like that is what you have to want to do this. You can't just be like, oh, I'm going to go to the gym real quick and for an hour and just put up the weights and then hit whatever for 20 minutes. No, you have to do this. So I want to hear 75-hard, not from a casual worker, outer person, but I want to hear from not only are you a trainer, but you've been doing this for a decade, so I mean, you know some things.
Speaker 1:I would say like I know some things. It's like I know some stuff.
Speaker 2:A little bit yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm constantly learning Speak on it.
Speaker 2:Speak on it, my man. I want to hear what you have to say, right?
Speaker 1:on. Yeah, so thank you for all that. Well, I'm going to lay that up, bro. I see you do the ducking bro, Good do. Yes, like oh man, the Vince Carter Next time. I'll wear his jersey Next time.
Speaker 1:Ay, hell, yeah Now. Yeah, so 75-hard. So I'm currently doing it right now, and we talked a little bit about it in the other podcast as well. We didn't really get into it, but I've actually done it before. I've done it I think it was what 2021 that I did it, and it's funny because the start of it last time and the start of it this time was for starting it for similar reasons. But I'll get into that too. But what 75-hard is for those who don't know, so it is a discipline like kind of like a mindset program, and in this program you have a list of things to do, which I actually got a nap for it because I'm fancy. You don't need this app in order to do 75-hard, but it just helps keep me on track for making sure that I get my task done.
Speaker 2:Accountability is a big thing, dude, big time, yeah, big time.
Speaker 1:So I'll just read them out for you. So right here I have it all right there.
Speaker 2:So what's the app called?
Speaker 1:So the app is 75-hard.
Speaker 2:Oh, ok, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the 75-hard app, so, but in this program what you need to do is that you need to do two 45-minute workouts. One of them has to be outdoors and they can't be consecutive. So it's like if you do a workout inside, like lifting weights, you can't go out on a run immediately after, like again. That's too convenient and that's not this program.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 1:Actually, this program is really not convenient, but it's supposed to be because it has it in the name. It's hard. So next, you need to take a progress picture every single day, granted, he like. So the creator of this program, andy Fosilla, who is the owner and founder of First Form Supplements yeah, great company, great dude. Like honestly, that guy is motivating his fuck. You just turn on him. If you're listening to him, he's like, why is he yelling at me? And then you look at it he's like, oh no, he's just really passionate. So really dope dude. But he put in the taking a progress picture every single day because one it's easy and we tend to overlook the easy things as we get into a process of it, and so it's like putting in that every single day. One it's not only to show you the progress that you've made throughout the whole entire 75 days, but it's again something that's easily overlooked. So he put it in there so that you can make sure that you even do the smaller things like that too.
Speaker 2:That's one of the reasons why we're here. Yeah, you know, yeah, one of the reasons not all of them Right, yeah?
Speaker 1:And also, too, like any of these tasks that you do, if you skip out on one of them like if you like say, you're like on day 50 and you just so happen to miss one of the tasks you have to start from the beginning. So, it makes it very like, it makes it a point to like no, you get these tasks done today, because if you do it, if you push it off to tomorrow, you start all the way over to day one, wow, so have you had to start over yet?
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 1:My man yeah.
Speaker 2:What day are you on?
Speaker 1:I'm on day 63 right now. Oh, I'm almost there, I'm almost there.
Speaker 2:Dude, oh yeah, I'm just. You haven't even said anything else and I'm so proud of you. 63?, what the hell.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Ok, go, go, go. Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:The next thing is 10 pages of reading every single day. And now, it's not like Harry Potter or stuff like that, it's a what's wrong with Harry Potter bro? No, no, no, it's like it's not that.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2:I like Harry Potter too, don't hey?
Speaker 4:hey don't hey.
Speaker 1:But it's like you know, it's personal development book like business psychology, like that type of genre, like that's going to help better you and your business, basically, so that you're constantly getting quality information, something that's going to help feed your mind, something that's going to help, help you actually in the immediate future, and I like yeah. So basically, you know like I'm getting, like I've already finished two books.
Speaker 2:I'm on my third one right now, as we speak, and then Wait, that's just from doing this program You've been through two books Already. Yes, all right, I think that's a benefit, like right there being able to read more Understand. Yeah, just because it's so hard to. That's another activity that nobody does anymore, especially when it's on paper, so I don't know if you're reading like paper books.
Speaker 1:So that's another thing too. It can't be on the Kindle.
Speaker 2:It can't be audio.
Speaker 1:It has to be like a paper, like. It has to be like an actual, like a physical book. Yeah, Because not only like, like, it's like. I think the psychology that you had behind that was that you know, you get to see how much progress you're making from like the days you're reading and, honestly, whenever I see that I'm like oh shit, I'm like I'm like good amount through this book, I'm like I'm feeling pretty fucking good about myself.
Speaker 2:Constant positive reinforcement, bro. That's literally because I think that has to. You have to have that when you work out yeah.
Speaker 1:And like I prefer reading physical books instead, like the Kindle, and honestly, I tried reading Kindle books. It's not the same Like I like having a physical book in my hand. Like I'm typically a reader, I do like reading. I didn't fall off a little bit, but this actually helps me kind of stay back on. I get back on track and stay on track.
Speaker 2:So Can I ask you real quick what book do you want?
Speaker 1:Right now I'm reading Cal Newport's so good they can't ignore you man, talking about and like.
Speaker 1:Basically it's about like the like, how, like we got passion, like you know, like having a passion mindset or like being passion centric is like we got it all wrong and that's like actually it's like you shouldn't be, it's like passion could only get you so far but you need to like.
Speaker 1:It's about creating more of like a craftsmanship mindset because, like you know, passion is like you follow your passion, you get into your passion. It starts to get hard and then you kind of lose interest and then, like you end up kind of not following through with what you wanted to do in the first place, whereas, again, like if you were having that like more of a craftsmanship mindset. It's not about, like you know, like, regardless of whether it gets hard or not, you're just focusing on trying to get better at what you're trying to do and like he talks about, like you know, stuff like career capital as well and everything. It's a really great book actually. Like I've read his other book, deep Work, and I love his style of writing because it's very easy to follow, it doesn't? It's a very easy read, it's very fluent and it keeps you engaged.
Speaker 4:I love it.
Speaker 1:And so I love his work and so, yeah, definitely, 100% would recommend Cow Newport for those listening, both Deep Work and Be so Good. They Can't Ignore you, but, yes, great books. I've had a couple of good books during this time. As far as like with the program, it's amazing bro. Yeah, and then another aspect of it, too, is like drinking a gallon of water every day.
Speaker 2:What do you got now Today?
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm done.
Speaker 2:I'm done. I'm done. I am so badass, I did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually, I finished like right before we got up here, so I was like yes.
Speaker 2:And what's crazy? It's like it's like barely eight o'clock and you've drank a gallon of water.
Speaker 1:I usually finish like so on the days I work out like I usually or well like do like weight training. Oh yeah, I usually finish by like around, like five, so, but then again, like I wake up at around 4.30, so it's like I get to early sleep.
Speaker 2:I love you, bro. I do the same thing.
Speaker 1:Nobody does that yeah.
Speaker 2:But what does that take it?
Speaker 4:takes sleep and intentionality.
Speaker 2:Exactly, get it. I'm sorry, bro, 100% You're good, you're good.
Speaker 1:And the other one is no cheap meals or alcohol.
Speaker 2:Nice Ooh For 75 days. Yeah, oh, my God, I'm feeling great. I'm going to sip on this one more time.
Speaker 1:So and like you know, it's like honestly it's funny because when we, when I started 75 hard this time around, I started actually at my heaviest weight I've ever been.
Speaker 2:Which was.
Speaker 1:It was a 216. 216. It's your heaviest weight. I'm not a short king, I'm just average king, bro. Bro, that little stuff you seen that was. That was 300. That was 295.
Speaker 2:What? Yeah, dude, I've been huge bro. Yeah, tim will tell you, I was a fat kid and I've been fat and then I just, yeah, just worked out a lot like a ton when I was in high school and then I just tried to recently. Oh yeah, you saw me. Yeah, yeah, dude, I lost a lot. I lost like 30 pounds. Yeah, bro, you're doing great.
Speaker 4:I'm coming from you, that means like you're, like, you're, like you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like.
Speaker 2:That means like everything, bro, thank you. Thank you, I mean, I've always worked out like you. But like I mean, not like you. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I've worked out Just like hey man. I can tell you workout, bro, my man.
Speaker 2:Thank you, bro I appreciate it, man, but it's always, it's. It's hard, yes, you know, and I think we lose us regular people, like not you badasses, but like us regular people, we lose sight. It's like oh yeah, I gotta get sleep an. Oh yeah, protein oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So sometimes I think we all do. But I try to surround myself with and it's weird because I look at the people in my life and I'm like, wow, we are beautiful. Yeah, dude, the people that I surround myself with are good looking, fit, we're educated, we're successful, we do things that we love, things like that. So, and then just to dovetail off that real quick, you mentioned I don't know when I think it was when you gave us the what do you call it? The journal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, no, not the journal the Daily Stoic, the.
Speaker 2:Daily Stoic, and then Tim gave us the journal and you had mentioned, maybe a little bit after that, that what did you say? Five pages a day. And you said that some I remember you said it and it's funny, I just thought it because work has been insane and then I was just like five pages, five pages, that's it. And it's funny because you mentioned 10 pages a day and it's like I can easily do that. There are a lot of things that I do in my day that I don't have to do and then, but I choose to do Again, intentionality. So thank you for that. I just wanna put that out there.
Speaker 1:Appreciate you, man, yeah yeah, sam, you're a rockstar. No, no, no, no, no, honestly, man, thank you, thank you, no man, I think, with me starting 75 Hardin' Out granted. For me it's like 216 was my heaviest I've ever been.
Speaker 1:I didn't necessarily look bad by any means. In my eyes for myself, where I usually am, I'm like this is not the look that I like in everything. I was like this is the heaviest I've been, and how I got there, too, was not the best in everything. So, quite literally, I think that this year was just. This past year was just kind of like. I had its challenges for sure, like both emotionally and physically, like I mean I had in November I had my appendix removed.
Speaker 1:And then when I got back, it's like okay, cool, like I'm ready to go. Then I injured myself and then I got another small injury. So it was like more like kind of fighting my way back to get to a point where I'm like, okay, I can actually like work out and feel like myself again, right, but it was just.
Speaker 1:I noticed that during the year I just noticed that I kind of like was feeling myself sliding. I felt that I was drinking more. I wasn't really. I wasn't tracking as much as like I wasn't tracking as diligently as I do now. I wasn't like I wasn't being intentional with my food or with, like, what I was putting in my body and I was just feeling kind of not great about myself and I wasn't feeling like again. It was just more of like I wasn't feeling like myself and I didn't like who I was becoming or like I could see myself like.
Speaker 1:Well, if I keep on on this path, like you know, in the next year, two, five, 10 years and all that I'm like it's not gonna look good Right. And that was kind of the thing where I had to have a real conversation with myself. Because, you know, for those out there too, you know like even like us fitness professionals, we do go through struggles with like you guys too, like we do go through things that, like you know, we do have like that negative self-talk. We do have like sometimes, like where it's like we do have our struggles with like food or with drinks or with like, or maybe not consuming enough of the right stuff, right, cause, like life happens, life gets in a way and life knocks you down sometimes, and so you know, like it was just like, kind of like I guess I was dealing with a lot and you know, I was just kind of thinking to myself and like yo, like I, like I train people, like I'm supposed to be a model for some, for my clients, for my people, like I'm supposed to be a model for them, I'm supposed to be a model for my son, you know I'm supposed to be like again, I'm supposed to be working on my being my best self, so I could be better, like a better partner for you know, for Cassie, for my fiance.
Speaker 1:You know, like I need, like I need to do better, I and like I still, I still think that I still always I'm in a state of like I need to do better, I need to make sure that I'm being better, not only for me but the ones around me, and and I've done 75 hard before and I like doing it as a reset, like a as, like a mental reset and really like resharpen my tool of discipline, cause sometimes it's funny, cause like I don't think of myself as necessary discipline person. But then everybody around me is like oh no, that motherfucker's discipline.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't, I just do this and that. But you do it though intentionality. So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:Exactly, dude, I don't want to, I don't want to let that, I don't want to. You know, leave that on the wayside. You know, even though, okay, I just work out, but you do it, you know you, you, you track things there are things that cause it's not about whether you, you know, whether, like, oh, okay, I work out, or, oh, this is, I count my macros, whatever. I think a lot of it is about not only that you do it, but the purpose for doing it, you know. So you're not in and, bro, I don't know. Like, whenever we're on here with Tim and Jordan, they always like, oh, sam man, he's deep.
Speaker 2:Bro I like to get deep and dude bro but, I come on, man, bring that shit.
Speaker 2:Thank you, bro.
Speaker 2:So the reason, I feel like the reason, one of the reason and I heard this on something, heard it on, probably got it read in a book, I don't know but the reason why I think you do what you do Sam too does what she does, tim Jordan me why we do what we do and why so many people do what we do or do what they do, is because of the being able to do it, because we have the capacity to do it. So there is no choice not to. It's not that it's I'm not working out for today and I'm not even working out for tomorrow. I'm working out because I have the capability to work out and by continuing to work out it's almost like I'm continuing to give myself that room to work out, just to read, to learn. It's not because I'm reading, it's not like, oh, I'm reading these words, it's because I can then carry that into the future and give that to your son. You can be a model to people out there that are just like oh my God, you know this is so hard.
Speaker 2:And then they're like well.
Speaker 4:Evan does it.
Speaker 2:You know Evan's doing a really, you know he's consistent, you know it's not just, it's not like he's just doing things, it's a lifestyle. And Evan's human, like we all are. So how did he get there? Well, you know, when you make it something, make it part of your life, then you're like, oh my God, I gotta keep doing the 75 hard. But it's not just 75 hard, it's after 75 hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there is a thing after 75 hard, but that's another topic for sure?
Speaker 2:Oh, my bad, I didn't even know that at all.
Speaker 1:It's like live hard program. That's another. It's a whole other thing too, but it's funny that with 75 hard too. Granted, it's funny because the first month and a half felt like streamlined, because like it was, it gave me structure again and I know this was like, oh wow, I really do well under structure.
Speaker 1:And so like it's like having that structure of like okay, I got to get these things done and it put me literally back in step from when I did it the first time and everything. And it's like, oh yeah, I know what to do and everything, and so like quite literally, like the first month and a half it's not necessarily that was necessary easy, but like I was kind of like I was cruising through it because I was like I was just I was dialed into it and then, but the thing is is like it all hits again. For some people it hits at different points in time and then this time around, I think the second, like the second half of this has definitely been hitting me pretty good. Just cause, like life, like again like life stuff happens where things come up and then it's like you know, it's like, oh, like you get more stacked on top of the day on top of doing your doing all of your tasks for 75 hard. But the thing is like that's the point.
Speaker 1:It's like regardless of, like you know, like what happens throughout the day, you need to be getting these tasks done, because you set out to get these tasks done and complete this program right and that's the challenge of it. And so, yeah, I, it's just like they're definitely. And then also, too, it's like after a while, like you know, you do start to feel run down because, like you're doing all this stuff on top of still living your life. So there is that mental and emotional component to it and like again, like I'm not gonna sit here and say like oh yeah, whatever, I'm just a badass and like I'm just getting through it, it's not a big deal, right, it's like no dude, it's fucking hard.
Speaker 1:It's like I've definitely had my days Like it's like. It's like you know, I've had my challenges with this program and like. There have been times where I'm feeling down and everything, but I still get it done and on and like. There is there is a part of that that feels really good and everything and like, but it's also it's again. It kind of teaches you a lot about yourself of like what happens when adversity does hit. And but you know, going back to like why I started it too is just like you know, it was like that feeling not only physically but mentally and emotionally. I think having a strong why is gonna be the thing that actually pushes you through. Because, again, if you're just doing this so like yeah, I'm just doing it to do it, you're gonna fail Just because like, it just gets like it gets so inconvenient for you that it's like if you don't have a strong enough reason why you're doing it, then it's not gonna like, like you're not gonna be motivated enough to do it.
Speaker 1:Like you're not gonna have, like you're not gonna be able to stick to the program Because, again, like you don't have some of the anchor you to it and yeah everything I listed before is like that's kind of why I'm like well, it's like, it's not, it's not just me, it's not just me that I have to do this for, even though, again, everyone that can say is like you don't have to do 75 hard, no one has to do 75 hard. But should people I mean like again, like if you're talking to Andy for sell, he'd be like I have to fucking literally everybody should do it.
Speaker 1:It's like, but I'm like, you know, it's like I think that it's like it's a choice that everyone needs to make for themselves, but, honestly, like it benefits my life for sure and again I'm saying that as it's going through kind of like a harder time it's like it makes not only my life inconvenient, but like it's like it kind of affects, you know, the ones around me too and all that so and so. That's kind of a thing where it's like, you know, granted, like having a great support system. Again, cassie is so freaking supportive. Honestly, you know, not only is she like the woman of my dreams, but like dude, like she has my back and like having someone to support you in a way, like again, she, you know, like we're there for each other, like we're each other's rocks and like, honestly, like you know, I'm very, I'm very fortunate, I'm very grateful, I'm the luckiest man on earth.
Speaker 3:Bring that bell. Yeah, yeah, Bring it yeah there you go Right.
Speaker 2:Yes, Hell yeah, cassie and I could. I mean she's also in the gym, so that definitely helps, and if she's helping you with I know it doesn't it's hard as hell to get your food down the gym. I wanted to transition to something real quick before we close up, but sleep is very important and I think that is like the last.
Speaker 2:It's always just shoveled, not even to the last. You know part of any workout conversation, but it's not even spoken about. You know. It's just like, well, I just work out and you know I'm getting into eating, so that's better, but like, how are you recovering? And I noticed this personally and it's something that it's really hard. But I think it's sometimes it's hard whether you're alone or whether you're with someone, but I think sometimes it's even harder when you're with someone. I've experienced this.
Speaker 2:It could be, just because that adds more variables to your life, you know, rather than you just saying I gotta go to bed, you know, and then literally turn the lights off and go to bed. You know, it does add an element to it, and I've experienced that myself. And so, you know, maybe before we close, I wanna hear what you. You know how you've, you know cause I know you mentioned something sleep, and then I know you gotta drive, you know so, and then you also you know your workouts and all this stuff, dude. So, like, how do you manage your sleep?
Speaker 1:So how I normally manage and how it's been going lately and that's like so because like a lot of stuff's happened with like 75 hard and everything, so like I haven't been able to get to all the tasks, like actually, like yesterday I was at a wedding, you know what?
Speaker 2:So how are you supposed to Exactly?
Speaker 1:So like and I got one of I got my one workout in, but then it's like I had to rush home, get ready, and then we had to go and we had to drive far, and so like I couldn't get my next, my outdoor workout in. I had to get it done when we got back home late at night.
Speaker 1:So it's like I had my sleep Like, and then I had a client this morning, early this morning too, so it's like like sleep was not like the priority which, again, like sleep, is just so important, not only for like the recovery, but also for your mood you know, what so, and that's probably why like part of this 75 part is like at this point in time, where it's a little bit tougher and noise, because, like, my sleep has been lagging a little bit.
Speaker 1:So but I'd say, like the how it usually goes. And, granted again, if you're with somebody kind of having a game plan with each other, where it's like either, like you go, like, but I granted again, another reason why Cassie is who she is and she's just like freaking amazing is that she will actually like kind of help. She actually kind of is on the same boat as me, I know it. And like she just kind of aligns herself to where she's like, hey, you need to go to bed. Like she's kind of like that safeguard as far as like where
Speaker 1:it's like oh, yeah, Like I like it's like, oh, if we're watching something, it's like, oh man, I can't watch a little bit more. She's like, nah, you gotta go, we gotta go to bed. And I was like, yeah, I wake up early and I'm like, oh, you're right, and everything, and so, yeah, she'll tell you that like out of the two of us, it's like it's weird because I wake up early. But then it's like when I get home, when I finally do get home from like kind of a busy day, it's like I just want to kind of relax and everything. But having like a nighttime routine and like better like sleep hygiene Again, Sam, too, I know that we talked about this last time too, but it's like having like a ritual that you do before bed each time, Like it's like okay, when do you want to go to bed?
Speaker 1:Like start like an hour before of like start that process, so like do the things that you need to do. It's like take a shower, brush your teeth and all that, Take some melatonin if you need to, or like some magnesium zinc, that stuff, and then like kind of start to unwind, Like if you could dim the lights. Dim the lights If you want to read, read like have a light on, but like just like read a actual physical book, not like avoid screen time or like try to lower down your screen time. Or it's like, if you can't avoid screen time, maybe get something like blue light glasses that kind of help shield you from blue light. That will help. That actually kind of promote you from staying up longer. So doing stuff like that will immensely help you kind of get into a flow of like getting better sleep, Because, like, you want to focus on, like like the nighttime ritual, not just the morning routine but the nighttime routine as well.
Speaker 4:Big.
Speaker 1:But, granted, it's like again, like as of recently, like you know, just like trying to get fit everything in in one day, like for like us, like for the task at hand and everything.
Speaker 2:Impossible.
Speaker 1:I haven't been able to, like, have great sleep. And then also, too, it's just like my work schedule is a little weird, because my in-person people basically a life of a trainer and Sam too, can speak about this too. It's like, you know, you, your work is when everybody else is not working, and so it's like we work early mornings and in the evenings and then, like, we have the middle of the day to ourselves, but then it's like, when we get off at the in the evenings, it's like we get off at a time where it's like, oh, we should be going to bed when we're actually getting off at work. And so when we come home, it's like, you know, you like you take a shower or you like, but you try to unwind because you can't like, just like, go from like okay.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm on, I'm like I'm here for this person training in a lot, and then you go home You're like okay, I'm supposed to go to sleep now, turn off, right. It's like it doesn't work like that. We actually, like all of us have to like have a process of like once we come home from the day from the outside world. Like we come home, we want to like start to relax and actually take a breath, like oh my God, and actually like get a find a way so that we can just like kind of take a break from the day before we actually have to go to sleep. And so finding that process of like just having a moment for yourself, but then also giving yourself enough time to actually get a, get enough sleep, and so thinking about like when you want to wake up.
Speaker 1:You know you want to reverse engineer it to where it's like okay, if I want to wake up at 430, then I have to make sure that like, okay, what's like what? All right, how long do I have to sleep? Okay, so, at 430,. So, okay, I have to get the bed around like 830. Okay, so, like 730 is like when I need to start unwinding, or like start like um, getting myself ready for bed Again, like we talked about earlier.
Speaker 1:That intentionality of like okay, this time, this time is like, focused on this, but that is what I would recommend for people out there who are trying to get better with their sleep is, just, like you know, focus on, like taking away the screen time as much as possible, or get blue light glasses If you absolutely can't read a book, and maybe not read like um, like personal development at night. Like you know, I like reading personal development in the morning or in the middle of the day, just because, like that gets my brain going and all that, and so it makes me have more thoughts and like again, like make me want to do more.
Speaker 1:So, like something fun to read, like again like having something that's going to be enjoyable, entertaining, you know, and that's going to kind of help you um, you know just kind of like, start to like unwind a little bit more, um, so that you're also entertained, and then, like you know, um, just do the stuff that you would normally do before going to bed and then, um, you know, lights out and on.
Speaker 1:But if you have a partner too, that's like um again like either a kind of gig, a game plan that's going to be good for the both of you, uh, like whether you guys are like just on the same page, or if, like you know, you're an early bird and your partner's a night owl, and it's just like, just like, have those, like, um, those parameters of like, okay, like, we can have spend this hour together, but then this partner is going to stay up, this partner needs to go to bed. Um, again, having like, having those, I guess, like boundaries, like same thing that you do in any type of relationship, right, it's just like you have different boundaries, different like um parts to play, and so you know just uh, making sure that um, yeah, like again, like it's about like the teamwork of, like of a relationship too. So like finding out, like, what role is what um and like um, whether like being on the same page, or like having a game plan for the both of you Um yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I would say about it. I love it. You know, it's funny, man, like, just as every time I'm here on this podcast, I, I smile because I it's almost like I don't have to speak, but like we're communicating with every one of you, and what you mentioned really sat with me and it's something that I didn't even like. I've never read it or heard anybody say it, but I just started doing it reverse engineering, um, because I was looking at, well, intentional, why do I want to go to bed at this early, you know, and then. So then I had to, uh, basic, well, first go into the future and and see, well, tomorrow, if I want to start work at whatever time, I need to basically time everything that I'm doing back to like now.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Today and then set a schedule and it's funny because it's like it's a schedule, though, you know. So it's like really like you're going to keep your life on it and it's, yeah, I, I, if I'm going to be intentional about what I'm doing, and then that, at which that which I'm doing is not because of what it is, it's for the future, then I need to. It's almost like then you need to pull back. It's like, well then, if I'm going, if I'm doing this for the future, just because I'm doing it, you know, just because I have the capacity, then okay, what is it that I'm doing? And then how long is that taking? And then how long are all these things you know also taking so that I can now go to bed at this time or get ready for bed at this time? And then what am I doing before I even do those things? You know. So my mind like just, and so hearing you say that I'm just like, wow, like this is, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:It's a thing that you, because if you're going to be intentional about, uh, working out, then that means that you need to be intentional again about your eating, about your, about your sleep, about the just the thoughts that you have in your head, and then, oh yeah, you need to care for yourself by making money, so right, so you need to basically set your schedule around those things that are important to you, and then you still need to get your food in your body, you still need to work out, you still need to, um, you know, hang out with your son. Uh, you know, have a conversation with Kazi. You know like you need to do these things that require your life to continue to move forward. At the same time, I need to care for my body, and then I need to make money and I need to, you know, do all these things. So it's really amazing to hear, um, that that is something that is should be standard, you know, uh, but it's, it's just hard and real quick.
Speaker 2:I do want to talk, uh, hey, sam, too. Um, I, first of all, I like your jersey. Um, yes, it looks amazing. Shout out to Evan. Um, so I want to hear your thoughts on intentionality and how you basically cause. You are also, uh, deep in this fitness world, so I want to hear, you know, what you, what you have to say about intentionality.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think intentionality really comes back down to your why. You know, why do you cameras? Sorry, yeah, it comes back down to your why, like why? Why do you want to improve your fitness? Why do you want to improve your nutrition? Um, or just why do you just want to be healthy overall? And once you get your why down, I think the intentionality just comes along with it, naturally and it just makes it so much easier. Um, it does it does.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that because I know you are, uh, you and you've been this way for a long time uh intentional about you know not only what you, you know your workouts, but what you put in your body. Um, and Tim has been uh, I've looked to him for you know just how I feel, why have kind of changed my workouts and try to make it more of a cause. I was really big into just lifting Right and then I was like, oh, there's, there's, there has to be something to this long form um, not necessarily cardio, but just long form workouts where you're doing, where you're actually putting in um, maybe not necessarily you know higher, uh, you know heart rate workouts, but maybe something a little more moderate, but for a longer, you know um longer time period.
Speaker 2:And when I I've seen Tim and I'm like, damn, these are things that are beneficial to our bodies, and not just because they're workouts but because, uh, it's all about not necessarily intentionality but uh, sustainability. So are you going to be able to do this for a long time? And, as you know, with age, my shoulders, my knees, my hips, these things are, you know, two plates, isn't two plates anymore. It's like the, the, the, the, the, the passion and the muscle is still there, but the joints are like no, no, no, I don't really care about that, you know. So then I it's like well, what else can I do, you know, finding out the different things that are possible?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that it's funny enough, like, uh, I'll say this and then we'll wrap it up and everything, but like the uh, it's funny cause, like uh, the whole entire thing is like that muscle and the passion, but the joints are kind of. I think that you know, um, as we get older, it's like we are required to train smarter with our, with this, with harder, like uh, it's like not harder because, like you still want to train hard, but you just need to train smarter. Yeah, um, because when we're young it's okay to be stupid.
Speaker 2:It's okay.
Speaker 1:It's okay, you got to learn and, granted, actually, like your body is pretty damn resilient, so it's like you know, you can get away with a lot of things, like in everything, um, when you're younger and everything, and it's. It's like it's okay, but it's like, over time though, it's going to like come back and bite you in the ass and so, uh, you know, as we get older, it's like you know, just as you were saying, like you know, the 225 doesn't feel like 225 anymore, maybe feel like 315. Uh, but it's uh, it's how we go about training and like how we do things properly and it's like, okay, as we get older, we got to do like a little bit more of a warmup.
Speaker 1:We got to like again, there are just certain things that we need to do when we're older, that like when we don't think about when we're younger, and so, but that's also kind of part of it, right. It's like, as you get older, like you get a little bit more wisdom from all the mistakes that you got.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, man. Yeah, I was like why, and then you said it it's like boom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, no, no. So you know, but I think that, as far as when it comes to um, when it comes to all this, it's just you know you need it, like, um, like you need to learn, like it's like you need to train hard so you know what it feels like. And then sometimes you need to learn the hard lessons of getting knocked down from either injury or just life in general, just to understand, like where you know where your boundaries are or like how far you can actually push yourself and everything and so that you can, like, know more about yourself and learn more about yourself, right, I think that's what like.
Speaker 1:More of what wisdom is right? It's like learning, like how do you handle what life throws at you?
Speaker 1:And so you know, and the more wisdom that you have, the more wisdom that you're able to not only um, you know, maneuver through life like a little bit easier, through situations that may have seemed hard at one point, but also to kind of help others who are going through that difficult journey. Right, because we're all going through something so like, and we all like it's crazy man, we all can relate to something, or you know something's going to pop up and like you'd be surprised by how many other people have gone through that, what you're going through already. And so it's just like about like, uh, yeah, so like you learn from others and then, like from what you learned not only from others, and like from what your own personal journey has you're able to kind of help others that are going through it and everything. So it's just like you know you're just passing it on to the next person.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You know, like you're paying it forward, basically Paying it forward bro, as Tim would say.
Speaker 2:I love that man and it's just, it's constant intentionality, constant positive, positive reinforcement, understanding what you can do and and how, like, whatever I'm doing is it's when things are firing correctly. It makes me feel good. You know, and and and. Then you develop, like you said, this wisdom, and then you understand oh okay, this is the best. Well, at this time in my life, this is the way of living, this is how I need to live to move forward, you know so, understanding that and being able to just evolve and adjust. I feel like we're all products of adjustment and evolution and we need to just okay, well, it's not working anymore. And you know, like you say, I'm not young and and and, if I want to continue to age gracefully, then I need to stop being stupid, Right? You?
Speaker 1:know, essentially, essentially, that's what we all need to do, right.
Speaker 2:Right. So, uh, yeah, I love that and, um, I really appreciate you when, when, um you know I was when I was driving over here, I was like you know, I haven't seen Evan one. I haven't seen him in too long.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah man.
Speaker 2:Way too, long bro. I was hearing your voice in the last podcast. I was like damn man him. Sam two and 10.
Speaker 1:Bro, that's, that's how I felt, like everything. That's literally how I felt Like, uh, when, like, and I wasn't able to make the uh last monthly review and everything, and so it was like you guys are all together, I'm like man, I fucking miss those. So so, dude, like honestly man, like again the feelings are mutual, brother, like honestly, like, uh, dude, it's been great and, um, I think that with that man I think we could, uh, I think we should maybe like wrap it up and let's get it wrong. Let's get it.
Speaker 2:What are we going to do? What are we going to do? Let's go on three, or what.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, let's go on three.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, you ready? All right, all right guys, let's go on. Three, one, two, three, let's go. Bye everybody.
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